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Post by mrShowtime on May 26, 2017 9:03:11 GMT -5
Looking only at stats:
Player G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Dirk Nowitzki 1394 1363 34.9 7.7 16.2 .473 1.3 3.3 .381 5.1 5.8 .879 1.0 6.8 7.8 2.5 0.8 0.9 1.7 2.4 21.7
Paul Pierce 1343 1285 34.2 6.5 14.5 .445 1.6 4.3 .368 5.2 6.4 .806 0.8 4.8 5.6 3.5 1.3 0.6 2.6 2.7 19.7
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Post by bbills on May 26, 2017 10:19:51 GMT -5
Looking only at stats:
Player G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Dirk Nowitzki 1394 1363 34.9 7.7 16.2 .473 1.3 3.3 .381 5.1 5.8 .879 1.0 6.8 7.8 2.5 0.8 0.9 1.7 2.4 21.7
Paul Pierce 1343 1285 34.2 6.5 14.5 .445 1.6 4.3 .368 5.2 6.4 .806 0.8 4.8 5.6 3.5 1.3 0.6 2.6 2.7 19.7
I'm taking pierce. I think it's easier to Find a dirk type of player then a pierce type scorer. |
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Post by tadster00 on May 26, 2017 10:51:41 GMT -5
Looking only at stats:
Player G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Dirk Nowitzki 1394 1363 34.9 7.7 16.2 .473 1.3 3.3 .381 5.1 5.8 .879 1.0 6.8 7.8 2.5 0.8 0.9 1.7 2.4 21.7
Paul Pierce 1343 1285 34.2 6.5 14.5 .445 1.6 4.3 .368 5.2 6.4 .806 0.8 4.8 5.6 3.5 1.3 0.6 2.6 2.7 19.7
I'm taking pierce. I think it's easier to Find a dirk type of player then a pierce type scorer. One thing that separates it for me is that Dirk almost singlehandedly carried his team to the playoffs nearly every year. And also put the team on his back for his lone championship. Pierce had never made an ECF before getting the Big 3 together. I have a lot of respect for Pierce. The gap between them isn't huge, but like I said, I'll make the same choice every time. |
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Post by tadster00 on May 26, 2017 10:54:28 GMT -5
Should the Celtics trade the #1 pick or keep it? We know if they keep it, the choice is Fultz.
Do you take a chance on Butler or George knowing they may not re-sign after the season? You could have Fultz and say Gordon Hayward, and have Hayward for the long haul. To me, that's the better option. Could potentially trade Avery Bradley or put a package together to trade for Butler using next year's BKN pick as well.
So many possibilities thanks to that other team in New York.
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Post by Pain662 on May 26, 2017 10:59:42 GMT -5
LOL gotcha "Lebron fines Lue for fining JR Smith behind his back" lol |
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Post by Pain662 on May 26, 2017 11:00:56 GMT -5
How about James Jones making it to his 7th straight Finals? Today's John Salley? Or Robert Horry, for you Spurs. |
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Post by mrShowtime on May 26, 2017 11:00:57 GMT -5
Should the Celtics trade the #1 pick or keep it? We know if they keep it, the choice is Fultz. Do you take a chance on Butler or George knowing they may not re-sign after the season? You could have Fultz and say Gordon Hayward, and have Hayward for the long haul. To me, that's the better option. Could potentially trade Avery Bradley or put a package together to trade for Butler using next year's BKN pick as well. So many possibilities thanks to that other team in New York. I may honestly be on the "trade Isaiah" bandwagon. The liability he presents on defense may not be worth the offensive production (plenty of scorers in this league) and his value won't be any higher than it is now. If everybody was smart, PG13 would be a sign-and-trade to Boston and there would be many many ECF appearances in the future. But George wants to cut his career short by joining a rebuilding squad just so that he can play in SoCal. I have no idea about Butler, or any idea as to what Chicago needs to do going forward. |
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Post by mrShowtime on May 26, 2017 11:10:57 GMT -5
Looking only at stats:
Player G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Dirk Nowitzki 1394 1363 34.9 7.7 16.2 .473 1.3 3.3 .381 5.1 5.8 .879 1.0 6.8 7.8 2.5 0.8 0.9 1.7 2.4 21.7
Paul Pierce 1343 1285 34.2 6.5 14.5 .445 1.6 4.3 .368 5.2 6.4 .806 0.8 4.8 5.6 3.5 1.3 0.6 2.6 2.7 19.7
I'm taking pierce. I think it's easier to Find a dirk type of player then a pierce type scorer. Easier to find a Dirk? I checked the last 30 years for a guy who can get you 60 threes, 60 blocks, 600 rebounds, and 1600 points. Guys who did it once:CB34 Pippen KAT Employee Number Eight The Human Highlight Film Guys who did it twiceLarry Legend Cousins The Slim Reaper King James The Matrix One guy did it NINE TIMES
anybody care to guess who that guy was? |
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Post by mrShowtime on May 26, 2017 11:43:57 GMT -5
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Post by bbills on May 26, 2017 12:00:52 GMT -5
Someone on a pc look up if voston can sign both Ibaka and heyward in the offseason or if one would need to be traded for.
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Post by tadster00 on May 26, 2017 12:13:46 GMT -5
Should the Celtics trade the #1 pick or keep it? We know if they keep it, the choice is Fultz. Do you take a chance on Butler or George knowing they may not re-sign after the season? You could have Fultz and say Gordon Hayward, and have Hayward for the long haul. To me, that's the better option. Could potentially trade Avery Bradley or put a package together to trade for Butler using next year's BKN pick as well. So many possibilities thanks to that other team in New York. I may honestly be on the "trade Isaiah" bandwagon. The liability he presents on defense may not be worth the offensive production (plenty of scorers in this league) and his value won't be any higher than it is now. If everybody was smart, PG13 would be a sign-and-trade to Boston and there would be many many ECF appearances in the future. But George wants to cut his career short by joining a rebuilding squad just so that he can play in SoCal. I have no idea about Butler, or any idea as to what Chicago needs to do going forward. i was tempted to put that as an option as well. However, I'm of the mindset that I don't think they could win anything even with PG or Butler without IT as the #2. I mean, the guy did average 29ppg this year. While I also think they'd be better in the long run trading IT, I don't know if they can win now if they do. |
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Post by bbills on May 26, 2017 12:55:48 GMT -5
I may honestly be on the "trade Isaiah" bandwagon. The liability he presents on defense may not be worth the offensive production (plenty of scorers in this league) and his value won't be any higher than it is now. If everybody was smart, PG13 would be a sign-and-trade to Boston and there would be many many ECF appearances in the future. But George wants to cut his career short by joining a rebuilding squad just so that he can play in SoCal. I have no idea about Butler, or any idea as to what Chicago needs to do going forward. i was tempted to put that as an option as well. However, I'm of the mindset that I don't think they could win anything even with PG or Butler without IT as the #2. I mean, the guy did average 29ppg this year. While I also think they'd be better in the long run trading IT, I don't know if they can win now if they do. At ITs salary it's ridiculous to trade him right now. |
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Post by Pain662 on May 26, 2017 13:20:55 GMT -5
i was tempted to put that as an option as well. However, I'm of the mindset that I don't think they could win anything even with PG or Butler without IT as the #2. I mean, the guy did average 29ppg this year. While I also think they'd be better in the long run trading IT, I don't know if they can win now if they do. At ITs salary it's ridiculous to trade him right now. How do you trade a guy who had the playoff experience he had? I say experience because of what happened in his personal life that he pushed aside while on the court. He may be everything he ever will be but he has greatness in him. Heart can't be taught nor bought. But I think Boston should keep the pick, choose Fultz and look to move the Nets' 2018 pick for Butler. I don't know if Chicago owns its own pick next year but if they can get it back in a deal, it may be a pretty high pick, without Butler on the team. If George comes to his senses, make a run at him. It's worth a phone call, like any other deal. Hayward makes them better but I don't think he makes them world beaters. But if he can be gotten in free agency along with Butler or PG13, that's a solid squad that can compete for titles. There's a small window if they want to snatch a ring from the Lebrons or the Warriors. If they don't want that, then just keep using those stockpiled picks, but why bring in Horford? |
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Post by gr8one54 on May 26, 2017 14:04:53 GMT -5
kobe played in the west bron has played in the weakest time period in the weakest division ever in sports, c'mon really the wizards, raptors, hawks and yes the 07 pistons are in that category .. not even close... Bill Russell greatest center of his time but he was playin against 6'4" centers competition was beyond weak same thing with james. bron is easily top 10 all time but to me hes isn't at the kobe, tim duncan level yet
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Post by mrShowtime on May 26, 2017 14:31:22 GMT -5
kobe played in the west bron has played in the weakest time period in the weakest division ever in sports, c'mon really the wizards, raptors, hawks and yes the 07 pistons are in that category .. not even close... Bill Russell greatest center of his time but he was playin against 6'4" centers competition was beyond weak same thing with james. bron is easily top 10 all time but to me hes isn't at the kobe, tim duncan level yet You're a worse homer than Bbills saying Pierce > Dirk |
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Post by gr8one54 on May 26, 2017 14:33:14 GMT -5
this a watered down league i don't think theirs any debate about that with all the flops and traveling, the lapse of defense league wide, the wing players get away with so much crap while post players get hacked and scratched and clawed with no whistle. no wonder post players are going extinct.
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Post by mrShowtime on May 26, 2017 14:44:42 GMT -5
At ITs salary it's ridiculous to trade him right now. How do you trade a guy who had the playoff experience he had? I say experience because of what happened in his personal life that he pushed aside while on the court. He may be everything he ever will be but he has greatness in him. Heart can't be taught nor bought. But I think Boston should keep the pick, choose Fultz and look to move the Nets' 2018 pick for Butler. I don't know if Chicago owns its own pick next year but if they can get it back in a deal, it may be a pretty high pick, without Butler on the team. If George comes to his senses, make a run at him. It's worth a phone call, like any other deal. Hayward makes them better but I don't think he makes them world beaters. But if he can be gotten in free agency along with Butler or PG13, that's a solid squad that can compete for titles. There's a small window if they want to snatch a ring from the Lebrons or the Warriors. If they don't want that, then just keep using those stockpiled picks, but why bring in Horford? Yeah, I wasn't thinking about the personal aspect of it. Fans would be livid |
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Post by gr8one54 on May 26, 2017 14:55:13 GMT -5
lebron drafted in 2003 the nba hand check rule done away with in the 04 -05 season  |
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Post by mrShowtime on May 26, 2017 15:25:53 GMT -5
lebron drafted in 2003 the nba hand check rule done away with in the 04 -05 season Not many people realize that the hand check rule: 1. Ruined Brandon Roy's Knees 2. Made Steve Nash jump off the wrong foot 3. Drafted Greg Oden 4. Stole the 2006 NBA MVP from Kobe Bryant |
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Post by Pain662 on May 26, 2017 15:28:57 GMT -5
How do you trade a guy who had the playoff experience he had? I say experience because of what happened in his personal life that he pushed aside while on the court. He may be everything he ever will be but he has greatness in him. Heart can't be taught nor bought. But I think Boston should keep the pick, choose Fultz and look to move the Nets' 2018 pick for Butler. I don't know if Chicago owns its own pick next year but if they can get it back in a deal, it may be a pretty high pick, without Butler on the team. If George comes to his senses, make a run at him. It's worth a phone call, like any other deal. Hayward makes them better but I don't think he makes them world beaters. But if he can be gotten in free agency along with Butler or PG13, that's a solid squad that can compete for titles. There's a small window if they want to snatch a ring from the Lebrons or the Warriors. If they don't want that, then just keep using those stockpiled picks, but why bring in Horford? Yeah, I wasn't thinking about the personal aspect of it. Fans would be livid Ya, I think Danny called him a Celtic legend. Somebody did. |
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Post by Pain662 on May 26, 2017 15:31:00 GMT -5
lebron drafted in 2003 the nba hand check rule done away with in the 04 -05 season Did you get a new computer? How come you can spell now? Good to see you, tho |
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Post by mrShowtime on May 26, 2017 15:55:46 GMT -5
Yeah, I wasn't thinking about the personal aspect of it. Fans would be livid Ya, I think Danny called him a Celtic legend. Somebody did. That's madness |
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Post by mrShowtime on May 26, 2017 16:09:30 GMT -5
This game just keeps getting better
It's too bad I can't stop playing MLB the Show
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Post by mrShowtime on May 26, 2017 16:17:26 GMT -5
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Post by bbills on May 26, 2017 17:01:15 GMT -5
lebron drafted in 2003 the nba hand check rule done away with in the 04 -05 season Did you get a new computer? How come you can spell now? Good to see you, tho With trump cracking down on illegals gr8 has been scamming columbian chick into thinking he will marry them so they can get a green card. He's been banking so much money he could afford an eye transplant |
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Post by tadster00 on May 26, 2017 17:10:22 GMT -5
this a watered down league i don't think theirs any debate about that with all the flops and traveling, the lapse of defense league wide, the wing players get away with so much crap while post players get hacked and scratched and clawed with no whistle. no wonder post players are going extinct. These are some good points, my one-eyed friend |
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Post by tadster00 on May 26, 2017 17:11:22 GMT -5
Show, Lil Showtime graduated HS?? Feel like you were talking 8th grade basketball like a year ago
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Post by Pain662 on May 26, 2017 17:14:59 GMT -5
Show, Lil Showtime graduated HS?? Feel like you were talking 8th grade basketball like a year ago Wow, Congrats, Pops! |
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Post by tadster00 on May 26, 2017 18:11:29 GMT -5
I'm at Six Flags in San Antonio. Just saw a black dude wearing a John Stockton jersey.
I mean, you see white dudes wearing black NBA players all the time, but how often does this happen? Lol
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Post by Pain662 on May 26, 2017 18:51:16 GMT -5
I'm at Six Flags in San Antonio. Just saw a black dude wearing a John Stockton jersey. I mean, you see white dudes wearing black NBA players all the time, but how often does this happen? Lol That means he's old. Where is Shifty when you need him? Lol |
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