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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 9:51:40 GMT -5
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Post by bbills on Jun 21, 2017 9:57:11 GMT -5
How big of a fall from grace has howard taken. Im shocked teams are still willing to deal for him Not such a fall from grace when you consider that 1. He had back surgery in 2012 2. He still averaged 13 and 13 last year. But nobody seems to want him on their team. He seems to wear on his welcome quick ever since he left Orlando. He went from one of the most popular guys in the league to traded for miles plume lee and 2nd rd pick
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Post by bbills on Jun 21, 2017 10:29:00 GMT -5
The Knicks are in love with Kansas' Josh Jackson...Boston has the 3rd pick and could use that to get Porzingis. Lets DO IT.. Bring me GODZINGIS
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 10:45:28 GMT -5
Not such a fall from grace when you consider that 1. He had back surgery in 2012 2. He still averaged 13 and 13 last year. But nobody seems to want him on their team. He seems to wear on his welcome quick ever since he left Orlando. He went from one of the most popular guys in the league to traded for miles plume lee and 2nd rd pick Howard left Orlando because he was tired of seeing Ryan Anderson get touches instead of him. He was the top big man in the game and they were too busy shooting threes. He should've been getting 40 in the playoffs and he wasn't (partly cuz he couldn't be trusted to make FTs). He wanted a change. In LA, I think he became soured because of the Kobe-factor. Kobe was expecting another Shaq, but Dwight's no that guy and Kobe never let it go. He didn't wear out his welcome in LA, or we wouldn't have had this gem: In Houston, he thought he'd have a chance to become a part of the offense, but these were the days before James Harden was getting triple doubles and wasn't looking to pass. McHale was very unapologetic about his desire for Harden to control the ball, leaving Howard to be merely a rebound-machine. In 2015-16, Harden averaged 7.5 APG. Only 1.4 went to Howard. Only 8% of Harden's passes went to Dwight. In comparison, that same year, 22% of Tony Parker's passes went to LaMarcus Aldridge.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 10:56:04 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 11:00:26 GMT -5
It sure looks like the Hawks are ready to blow it up and rebuild. After trading Dwight Howard to the Hornets last night, the Hawks are reportedly exploring possible sign and trades for star forward Paul Millsap.
The Nuggets, Kings and Suns are all expressing interest in a possible trade, although details of what the teams are offering aren’t clear.
As long as he's down to be #2 to Jokic.
But let's be honest, this is the guy Charlotte should've made a play for.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 11:02:44 GMT -5
this is FANTASTIC
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Post by bbills on Jun 21, 2017 11:10:24 GMT -5
It sure looks like the Hawks are ready to blow it up and rebuild. After trading Dwight Howard to the Hornets last night, the Hawks are reportedly exploring possible sign and trades for star forward Paul Millsap.
The Nuggets, Kings and Suns are all expressing interest in a possible trade, although details of what the teams are offering aren’t clear. As long as he's down to be #2 to Jokic. But let's be honest, this is the guy Charlotte should've made a play for. i agree with that
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 11:14:43 GMT -5
WOW
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Post by bbills on Jun 21, 2017 11:15:23 GMT -5
With the Pacers, bulls and Atlanta blowing it up and the Raptors expected to lose Lowery the East is gonna be even worst this year.. What teams could take that next step into the 4-6 playoff seed range?
Bucks probably are the best bet but after that its not as clear
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Post by bbills on Jun 21, 2017 11:19:49 GMT -5
james dolan needs to sell this team
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 11:29:14 GMT -5
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 21, 2017 11:30:08 GMT -5
But that’s changed. And this week’s news that Kristaps Porzingis could be on the trading block only made things worse. “I was talking to one of our players the other day, a free agent, and we were looking at our options,” one agent said. “And it used to be, ‘Yeah, get me to New York.’ Even when they were struggling, there are guys who want to be in the city. But he was saying, ‘no, no, not that environment, not now.’ They’re not just alienating their own players, they’re alienating all players. They’re making things hard on themselves there.” – via Sporting News
HA!
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 11:30:23 GMT -5
With the Pacers, bulls and Atlanta blowing it up and the Raptors expected to lose Lowery the East is gonna be even worst this year.. What teams could take that next step into the 4-6 playoff seed range? Bucks probably are the best bet but after that its not as clear The Bobnets, if they play this right. Also, Miami will likely make the playoffs next year.
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 21, 2017 11:30:53 GMT -5
BTW it's 100 degrees at 0930
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 11:31:39 GMT -5
But that’s changed. And this week’s news that Kristaps Porzingis could be on the trading block only made things worse. “I was talking to one of our players the other day, a free agent, and we were looking at our options,” one agent said. “And it used to be, ‘Yeah, get me to New York.’ Even when they were struggling, there are guys who want to be in the city. But he was saying, ‘no, no, not that environment, not now.’ They’re not just alienating their own players, they’re alienating all players. They’re making things hard on themselves there.” – via Sporting News HA! Watch CLE's big move end up being Melo.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 11:32:27 GMT -5
BTW it's 100 degrees at 0930 93 at 10:30am here
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Post by bbills on Jun 21, 2017 11:32:39 GMT -5
BTW it's 100 degrees at 0930 Global warming is a hoax
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 11:34:37 GMT -5
First came the reports that LeBron James and other Cavaliers players were calling Jimmy Butler to recruit him, and he wanted to push his way to Chicago.
Then came the report Butler told the Cavaliers he wants to stay in Chicago.
What changed? Did Butler remember his love of deep dish pizzas and Millennium Park and have a change of heart?
No, more likely is that Cavaliers players actually called him up and said “you don’t want to come here right now,” reports Joe Crowly at the Chicago Sun-Times.
According to a Cleveland source close to the situation, several of the Cavaliers who had been prodding Butler to push for a trade from the Bulls the last five days were now warning him to stay away from a suddenly volatile situation.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 11:36:28 GMT -5
BTW it's 100 degrees at 0930 Global warming is a hoax While I applaud your sarcasm and agree with your general point, hot weather in Arizona is not proof of global warming.
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 21, 2017 11:44:40 GMT -5
But that’s changed. And this week’s news that Kristaps Porzingis could be on the trading block only made things worse. “I was talking to one of our players the other day, a free agent, and we were looking at our options,” one agent said. “And it used to be, ‘Yeah, get me to New York.’ Even when they were struggling, there are guys who want to be in the city. But he was saying, ‘no, no, not that environment, not now.’ They’re not just alienating their own players, they’re alienating all players. They’re making things hard on themselves there.” – via Sporting News HA! Watch CLE's big move end up being Melo. Supposedly Butler says he would rather stay in Chicago than go to Cleveland. Prolly smart considering he will be in the same position in 3 years but in a worse city lol
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 21, 2017 11:46:25 GMT -5
With the Pacers, bulls and Atlanta blowing it up and the Raptors expected to lose Lowery the East is gonna be even worst this year.. What teams could take that next step into the 4-6 playoff seed range? Bucks probably are the best bet but after that its not as clear The Bobnets, if they play this right. Also, Miami will likely make the playoffs next year. Getting Milsap instead of Howard would have pretty much guaranteed ascension. Still wouldn't push them past Boston but would maybe put them at the Wiz level.
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 21, 2017 11:49:06 GMT -5
While I applaud your sarcasm and agree with your general point, hot weather in Arizona is not proof of global warming. Very true. Look towards what's happening in Alaska for that. But we're almost 15 degrees above average and setting records. Yesterday was a record High (119) AND low (90).
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 11:50:41 GMT -5
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 21, 2017 12:04:16 GMT -5
Look at Google earth pix of that ice shelf over the past 10 years.
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Post by bbills on Jun 21, 2017 12:09:34 GMT -5
According to a Cleveland source close to the situation, several of the Cavaliers who had been prodding Butler to push for a trade from the Bulls the last five days were now warning him to stay away from a suddenly volatile situation. With the ouster of Cavaliers general manager David Griffin on Monday, LeBron James, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love could be headed for an unforeseen early breakup. – via Chicago Sun-Time
Lebron is GONE after next year
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Post by bbills on Jun 21, 2017 12:10:45 GMT -5
According to a Cleveland source close to the situation, several of the Cavaliers who had been prodding Butler to push for a trade from the Bulls the last five days were now warning him to stay away from a suddenly volatile situation. With the ouster of Cavaliers general manager David Griffin on Monday, LeBron James, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love could be headed for an unforeseen early breakup. – via Chicago Sun-Time Lebron is GONE after next year or is this just bullish Chicago reporting? Through back channels, Irving let it be known that he’d be interested in coming to Chicago. Clearly the asking price for Irving would be too rich for the Bulls, so a third team would have to be brought into the mix. “Jimmy wants to win, period,’’ a source said. “Whatever it takes to get that done.’’ – via Chicago Sun-Times
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 21, 2017 13:03:58 GMT -5
According to a Cleveland source close to the situation, several of the Cavaliers who had been prodding Butler to push for a trade from the Bulls the last five days were now warning him to stay away from a suddenly volatile situation. With the ouster of Cavaliers general manager David Griffin on Monday, LeBron James, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love could be headed for an unforeseen early breakup. – via Chicago Sun-Time Lebron is GONE after next year or is this just bullish Chicago reporting? Through back channels, Irving let it be known that he’d be interested in coming to Chicago. Clearly the asking price for Irving would be too rich for the Bulls, so a third team would have to be brought into the mix. “Jimmy wants to win, period,’’ a source said. “Whatever it takes to get that done.’’ – via Chicago Sun-Times I kinda believe it. Everyone knows what Cleveland will be like when LeBron leaves. They aren't getting anybody to come there when the whole world knows LeBron is out after next season. Get out now. Gilbert was lucky to get LeBron back in a Cavs uni after the comic sans incident. He won't get any free agents there after firing the guy who built the team that chipped. Who ever thought the clippers would be a preferred destination over New York? Cleveland will be back in the weeds after next summer.
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Post by bbills on Jun 21, 2017 13:21:18 GMT -5
or is this just bullish Chicago reporting? Through back channels, Irving let it be known that he’d be interested in coming to Chicago. Clearly the asking price for Irving would be too rich for the Bulls, so a third team would have to be brought into the mix. “Jimmy wants to win, period,’’ a source said. “Whatever it takes to get that done.’’ – via Chicago Sun-Times I kinda believe it. Everyone knows what Cleveland will be like when LeBron leaves. They aren't getting anybody to come there when the whole world knows LeBron is out after next season. Get out now. Gilbert was lucky to get LeBron back in a Cavs uni after the comic sans incident. He won't get any free agents there after firing the guy who built the team that chipped. Who ever thought the clippers would be a preferred destination over New York? Cleveland will be back in the weeds after next summer. I wouldn't say they will be complete trash after Lebron leaves kyrie is signed for 3 or 4 more years. If they play it they might not be championship caliber but they could be competitive. The more I think about it it's probably why Griffen was fired. The last rumor we heard was Griffen had a potential deal sending love to the Suns for the 4th pick. And he was already shopping that pick presumably to the pacers for George. Next thing we know a couple hours later Griffen is out. One could speculate Gilbert didn't want to have both Lebron and George on expiring deals and possibly leaving after the season and veto'd the deal involving love and the sun. Which probably led griff to give Gilbert and ultimatum and Gilbert fired his ass.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 21, 2017 14:41:19 GMT -5
The Dallas Mavericks currently own pick #9 in tomorrow’s draft and are trying to move up and land their future star guard.
Source tells LegionHoops.com that the Mavericks have spoken to the Minnesota Timberwolves about trading up to pick 7. Dallas is concerned that the guy they want, Frank Ntilikina will be selected by the Knicks at pick 8.
The parameters of the trade talks are unclear, but its expected Dallas would swap picks with Minnesota this year, and sweeten the pot by adding a player/future pick.
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