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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 24, 2017 11:11:07 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 24, 2017 11:11:57 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 24, 2017 15:21:07 GMT -5
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Post by bbills on Jul 24, 2017 17:20:15 GMT -5
So do we know the reason why kyrie wants out of Cleveland?
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Post by Pain662 on Jul 24, 2017 17:40:09 GMT -5
So do we know the reason why kyrie wants out of Cleveland? He's tired of Lebron controlling the ball and wants to control a team. Which means he wants to lose cuz nobody can put together a package that won't leave them as bad as Cleveland will be in 2 years. None of the players signed in free agency can be traded until December. That means, no Kyrie for Teague. Miami could trade Dragic but he's the leader there. Swapping changes their entire philosophy. Spurs have no PG of equal value or talent but Lebron could make either look like a genius for 1 season. Melo won't waive his no-trade to go to Cleveland when Lebron is dipping next summer. Who else is going to trade their franchise for Kyrie when you're not one of his 4 desired teams? You have 2 years to convince him to stay but, wherever he goes is losing to either GSW or BOS/CLE next season and for the foreseeable future.
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Post by tadster00 on Jul 24, 2017 17:58:22 GMT -5
So do we know the reason why kyrie wants out of Cleveland? He's tired of Lebron controlling the ball and wants to control a team. Which means he wants to lose cuz nobody can put together a package that won't leave them as bad as Cleveland will be in 2 years. None of the players signed in free agency can be traded until December. That means, no Kyrie for Teague. Miami could trade Dragic but he's the leader there. Swapping changes their entire philosophy. Spurs have no PG of equal value or talent but Lebron could make either look like a genius for 1 season. Melo won't waive his no-trade to go to Cleveland when Lebron is dipping next summer. Who else is going to trade their franchise for Kyrie when you're not one of his 4 desired teams? You have 2 years to convince him to stay but, wherever he goes is losing to either GSW or BOS/CLE next season and for the foreseeable future. Well, some team will trade for him. It's only a matter of time But if that team is smart, they would wait until next offseason to watch the implosion, see what LeBron does and force Cleveland into a desperation sell on Kyrie. Of course, that won't happen either.
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Post by Pain662 on Jul 24, 2017 18:25:01 GMT -5
He's tired of Lebron controlling the ball and wants to control a team. Which means he wants to lose cuz nobody can put together a package that won't leave them as bad as Cleveland will be in 2 years. None of the players signed in free agency can be traded until December. That means, no Kyrie for Teague. Miami could trade Dragic but he's the leader there. Swapping changes their entire philosophy. Spurs have no PG of equal value or talent but Lebron could make either look like a genius for 1 season. Melo won't waive his no-trade to go to Cleveland when Lebron is dipping next summer. Who else is going to trade their franchise for Kyrie when you're not one of his 4 desired teams? You have 2 years to convince him to stay but, wherever he goes is losing to either GSW or BOS/CLE next season and for the foreseeable future. Well, some team will trade for him. It's only a matter of time But if that team is smart, they would wait until next offseason to watch the implosion, see what LeBron does and force Cleveland into a desperation sell on Kyrie. Of course, that won't happen either. Nope, and ya someone will trade for him. Just a matter of not giving up too much to get him. But ya, the implosion is going to be fun to watch. I actually hope they get eliminated in the East Semis. But if they make it to the Finals, I hope BOS sweeps them.
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Post by quikdrummer on Jul 24, 2017 20:13:57 GMT -5
Well, some team will trade for him. It's only a matter of time But if that team is smart, they would wait until next offseason to watch the implosion, see what LeBron does and force Cleveland into a desperation sell on Kyrie. Of course, that won't happen either. Nope, and ya someone will trade for him. Just a matter of not giving up too much to get him. But ya, the implosion is going to be fun to watch. I actually hope they get eliminated in the East Semis. But if they make it to the Finals, I hope BOS sweeps them. Hey, the cavs just signed derrick rose, so they are all set. For at least 4 games
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Post by tadster00 on Jul 24, 2017 20:24:58 GMT -5
Nope, and ya someone will trade for him. Just a matter of not giving up too much to get him. But ya, the implosion is going to be fun to watch. I actually hope they get eliminated in the East Semis. But if they make it to the Finals, I hope BOS sweeps them. Hey, the cavs just signed derrick rose, so they are all set. For at least 4 games hey I love D-Rose. He won me $50 from Phil when he got injured the first time
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Post by admiralfish on Jul 24, 2017 21:17:06 GMT -5
Is Kylie serious? I can see if the reason was he knows LeBron is joining my Lakers and the ship be sinking but cause you want to be the man?
Lmfao!
So he's gonna end up in NY with melo to Houston and Cleveland collecting picks and parts from a fourth team.
Or some form of ridiculousness that matches this off season.
Crazy
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Post by Pain662 on Jul 24, 2017 21:31:39 GMT -5
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Post by quikdrummer on Jul 24, 2017 22:24:20 GMT -5
Is Kylie serious? I can see if the reason was he knows LeBron is joining my Lakers and the ship be sinking but cause you want to be the man? Lmfao! So he's gonna end up in NY with melo to Houston and Cleveland collecting picks and parts from a fourth team. Or some form of ridiculousness that matches this off season. Crazy Kyrie is just pissed because Lebron thinks the world revolves around him. Which it clearly can't, since Kyrie believes the world is flat.
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Post by tadster00 on Jul 24, 2017 22:26:39 GMT -5
Is Kylie serious? I can see if the reason was he knows LeBron is joining my Lakers and the ship be sinking but cause you want to be the man? Lmfao! So he's gonna end up in NY with melo to Houston and Cleveland collecting picks and parts from a fourth team. Or some form of ridiculousness that matches this off season. Crazy Kyrie is just pissed because Lebron thinks the world revolves around him. Which it clearly can't, since Kyrie believes the world is flat. Easy now, Ridge believes that too
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 25, 2017 9:27:02 GMT -5
I found it interesting to see Otto Porter chase the money to play for a bad Brooklyn team. Then we see George Hill do the same in Sacramento. Obviously, these guys become significant parts of these franchises while leaving behind playoff teams.
Kyrie is the first big name that we here wanting to get out of a high-wins situation in order to have his own team (of course, he wouldn't be the best player on 2 of the 4 teams he was linked to).
Is this the start of a trend?
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Post by tadster00 on Jul 25, 2017 10:18:46 GMT -5
I found it interesting to see Otto Porter chase the money to play for a bad Brooklyn team. Then we see George Hill do the same in Sacramento. Obviously, these guys become significant parts of these franchises while leaving behind playoff teams. Kyrie is the first big name that we here wanting to get out of a high-wins situation in order to have his own team (of course, he wouldn't be the best player on 2 of the 4 teams he was linked to). Is this the start of a trend? First part of a "superteam" or Big3 or what have you, that's wanting out. To me, it's a breath of fresh air. Otto Porter got matched by DC. I think he was just wanting the max and knew Wash would match anything
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 25, 2017 11:13:38 GMT -5
I found it interesting to see Otto Porter chase the money to play for a bad Brooklyn team. Then we see George Hill do the same in Sacramento. Obviously, these guys become significant parts of these franchises while leaving behind playoff teams. Kyrie is the first big name that we here wanting to get out of a high-wins situation in order to have his own team (of course, he wouldn't be the best player on 2 of the 4 teams he was linked to). Is this the start of a trend? First part of a "superteam" or Big3 or what have you, that's wanting out. To me, it's a breath of fresh air. Otto Porter got matched by DC. I think he was just wanting the max and knew Wash would match anything I like Otto Porter's game a lot, but not sure he's a max guy.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 25, 2017 11:13:44 GMT -5
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Post by admiralfish on Jul 25, 2017 11:14:21 GMT -5
This is an awfully easy fix for Cleveland and they could conceivably be not only better bit set up to compete when LeBron dons his Lakers jersey:
Trade Kylie to phoenix for bledsoe, bender and picks
Trade love and shumpert to Portland for Cj, aminu and napier. Squeeze a pick out of Portland as well.
You get control of multiple picks and next year's lineup:
James Aminu Thompson Cj Bledsoe ------- Rose Jr Bender
Theats a much more talented team and set to move forward without LeBron.
I need a front office job where is SENS to forward my brilliance to the league?!?
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Post by admiralfish on Jul 25, 2017 11:19:20 GMT -5
First part of a "superteam" or Big3 or what have you, that's wanting out. To me, it's a breath of fresh air. Otto Porter got matched by DC. I think he was just wanting the max and knew Wash would match anything I like Otto Porter's game a lot, but not sure he's a max guy. He's not a max guy max salaries are 40 million homie. He's getting what he should and do you actually think he was interested in joining Brooklyn for real? LOL Washington should've just signed him instead of letting the market dictate what we all knew he would get. Rightfully so he's a terrific player now and young. Is he a #1 offensive option no but he's one of those guys that does everything at a very high level and gives 1000000% effort. No matter how bright the "superstar" there will never be a night he is thoroughly outplayed. The kind of guy you CAN'T win a chip workout. Kinda like the GOATKING Horry...
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 25, 2017 11:26:00 GMT -5
HA!
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 25, 2017 11:29:52 GMT -5
I like Otto Porter's game a lot, but not sure he's a max guy. He's not a max guy max salaries are 40 million homie. He's getting what he should and do you actually think he was interested in joining Brooklyn for real? LOL Washington should've just signed him instead of letting the market dictate what we all knew he would get. Rightfully so he's a terrific player now and young. Is he a #1 offensive option no but he's one of those guys that does everything at a very high level and gives 1000000% effort. No matter how bright the "superstar" there will never be a night he is thoroughly outplayed. The kind of guy you CAN'T win a chip workout. Kinda like the GOATKING Horry... If you're gonna be a GM, you should probably learn how contracts work. Otto got the max that he's eligible for.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 25, 2017 11:56:47 GMT -5
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Post by admiralfish on Jul 25, 2017 12:31:15 GMT -5
He's not a max guy max salaries are 40 million homie. He's getting what he should and do you actually think he was interested in joining Brooklyn for real? LOL Washington should've just signed him instead of letting the market dictate what we all knew he would get. Rightfully so he's a terrific player now and young. Is he a #1 offensive option no but he's one of those guys that does everything at a very high level and gives 1000000% effort. No matter how bright the "superstar" there will never be a night he is thoroughly outplayed. The kind of guy you CAN'T win a chip workout. Kinda like the GOATKING Horry... If you're gonna be a GM, you should probably learn how contracts work. Otto got the max that he's eligible for. I'm very aware of that and he's with it. Kcp was not and Otto couldn't get 40 from me like I said. You mad imma Finna genius how about discussing the trade scenarios I proposed?
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 25, 2017 12:34:49 GMT -5
If you're gonna be a GM, you should probably learn how contracts work. Otto got the max that he's eligible for. I'm very aware of that and he's with it. Kcp was not and Otto couldn't get 40 from me like I said. You mad imma Finna genius how about discussing the trade scenarios I proposed? Um, Porter can't get $40M from ANYBODY. He's getting paid the max that HE'S ELIGIBLE for. Therefore, the Nets/Wiz see him as a max guy.
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Post by Pain662 on Jul 25, 2017 15:46:00 GMT -5
I found it interesting to see Otto Porter chase the money to play for a bad Brooklyn team. Then we see George Hill do the same in Sacramento. Obviously, these guys become significant parts of these franchises while leaving behind playoff teams. Kyrie is the first big name that we here wanting to get out of a high-wins situation in order to have his own team (of course, he wouldn't be the best player on 2 of the 4 teams he was linked to). Is this the start of a trend? LeBron left the big 3 standing in Miami, after he left Cleveland to form it. Porter used Brooklyn for leverage. The Wiz were hoping the market would save them money but yes, they should have known the market would max him and just made the deal. Hill confuses me cuz he's not winning a ring in Sac but he's acting like this is his last contract and going for the payday. Kyrie has the ring, he has the max contract, now he wants to breathe. Again, EVERYONE knows LeBron is leaving so he wants out before LeBron screws everyone around him again.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 25, 2017 15:57:57 GMT -5
Portland will trade shooting guard Allen Crabbe — who signed a four-year, $75 million contract with the Nets last offseason as a restricted free agent before the Trail Blazers matched the offer to retain him — to Brooklyn in exchange for forward Andrew Nicholson, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. The Trail Blazers will waive the remaining three years and $18 million left on Nicholson's contract and utilize the stretch provision to help clear even more money off the books.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 25, 2017 16:02:57 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 25, 2017 16:27:03 GMT -5
Suns have ruled out Brandon Knight for the entire 17-18 season.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 25, 2017 16:31:37 GMT -5
The Phoenix Suns have informed the Cleveland Cavaliers they will not trade Josh Jackson for Kyrie Irving in a trade
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Post by quikdrummer on Jul 25, 2017 17:03:42 GMT -5
Suns have ruled out Brandon Knight for the entire 17-18 season. Easy decision made easier
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