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Post by mrShowtime on Apr 27, 2019 22:42:35 GMT -5
Daniel Jones better have a golden arm
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Post by mrShowtime on Apr 27, 2019 22:44:23 GMT -5
If you love the uptempo, sprawlball game of today's NBA, don't watch this Nuggs/Spurs game 7. It's all floaters, mid-range jumpers, and post-play.
They might as well just remove the 3pt line and let them finish it out with all 2s.
...and I love it.
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Post by mrShowtime on Apr 27, 2019 23:40:54 GMT -5
I think I held my breath for most of the 4th qtr
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Post by tadster00 on Apr 28, 2019 12:37:18 GMT -5
I think I held my breath for most of the 4th qtr Great fight by the Spurs. Can't wait for next season with the best defender DeJounte Murray back and other players continuing to develop. Bryn Forbes and Patty Mills made Jamal Murray look like a top 5 guard in the league.
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Post by bbills on Apr 28, 2019 12:45:42 GMT -5
I think I held my breath for most of the 4th qtr Great fight by the Spurs. Can't wait for next season with the best defender DeJounte Murray back and other players continuing to develop. Bryn Forbes and Patty Mills made Jamal Murray look like a top 5 guard in the league. What do the spurs do this off season? Your wishlist and your realistic opinion?
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Post by bbills on Apr 28, 2019 12:49:26 GMT -5
Only half way thru the 2nd quarter but this bucks team can’t keep up with the Celtics.
Giannis needs a legit #2 guy. I like the depth of the team but buts a bunch of 3rd and 4th option type players
While Boston has 2 #1’s and 3 #2’s on the roster
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Post by bbills on Apr 28, 2019 12:50:14 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on your teams nfl drafts?
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Apr 28, 2019 13:04:46 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on your teams nfl drafts? I don't like immediately evaluating it until at least seeing them play, but the idea from the Bears was right. Get a RB, then go BPA/load up on special teams. Although I would not have traded Howard if the return was only a 6th but rather let him walk next season for nothing. Would have then used that 3rd rounder on either a safety or CB.
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Post by admiralfish on Apr 28, 2019 16:26:35 GMT -5
Great fight by the Spurs. Can't wait for next season with the best defender DeJounte Murray back and other players continuing to develop. Bryn Forbes and Patty Mills made Jamal Murray look like a top 5 guard in the league. What do the spurs do this off season? Your wishlist and your realistic opinion? Tank. It's the only way. You have alderidge, DeRozan and gay all on the backside of their careers. You have a group of "young" guys who may be or will become solid you do NOT have one with real Star potential. They have to deal those vets at the draft, Uber tankk and try to get another top 10 pick to go along with their own and get those 2 future stars to go along with Murray. Pop coaches next season then retires. That's the only way. You have to be realistic, in the past 4 years they've lost FOUR HOF players! You can't replace that with mediocre guys or aging all stars and expect to win anything.
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Apr 28, 2019 19:43:14 GMT -5
Actually the new lottery rules favor retooling much more so than rebuilding.
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Post by tadster00 on Apr 28, 2019 22:55:20 GMT -5
What do the spurs do this off season? Your wishlist and your realistic opinion? Tank. It's the only way. You have alderidge, DeRozan and gay all on the backside of their careers. You have a group of "young" guys who may be or will become solid you do NOT have one with real Star potential. They have to deal those vets at the draft, Uber tankk and try to get another top 10 pick to go along with their own and get those 2 future stars to go along with Murray. Pop coaches next season then retires. That's the only way. You have to be realistic, in the past 4 years they've lost FOUR HOF players! You can't replace that with mediocre guys or aging all stars and expect to win anything. A few thoughts on this in regards to who the Spurs have been: 1: of those 4 HOF guys, you could make a legit argument that 3 of them wouldn't be who they are/were if they weren't drafted by the Spurs. Heck, I wonder how much longer Manu would've stayed in Europe. 2: you told me I was crazy for "drinking the kool-aid, but the Spurs have been THE most consistent franchise since drafting Duncan, and they're still going. Unlike the most historic franchises in the Lakers and Celtics. Both have been in and out of relevancy over the past 20 years. 3: And to answer Bbills' questions. I hope we can lose Patty Mills and maybe even Bryn Forbes. The Spurs are going to be extremely guard heavy next season and really will need help defending big wings like LeBron, Giannis, and Paul George. Obviously no one in the league can defend these guys, just have to hope you can slow them down. 'Realistic' wish list would be Aminu or Thaddeus Young. Again, not great options, but might be realistic. The Spurs didn't struggle with defending SF/PF this year, but I feel they will next year. 4: The Spurs main struggle this year was defending quicker guards. They WON'T struggle with it next year if DeJounte Murray is healthy. My prediction is that he'll be 1st Team All-Defense next year and be the Comeback Player of the Year. Aldridge and DeRozan get a year older, but neither will lose that much athletically. The Spurs issue offensively was lack of a 3rd option. That, and that neither Aldridge or DeRozan is a true #1 anymore. That makes the 3rd option that much more important. It also magnifies issues when guys like Patty Mills, Bryn Forbes, and Maroc Belinelli can't make open shots. I think it all improves next year. And I didn't even mention Lonnie Walker. Why didn't he get a lot of run this year? Because the Spurs do things differently. *Sips the kool-aid*
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Post by admiralfish on Apr 29, 2019 6:59:01 GMT -5
Lol @ sips the Kool aid!!!
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Post by mrShowtime on Apr 29, 2019 9:29:57 GMT -5
I think I held my breath for most of the 4th qtr Great fight by the Spurs. Can't wait for next season with the best defender DeJounte Murray back and other players continuing to develop. Bryn Forbes and Patty Mills made Jamal Murray look like a top 5 guard in the league. Bryn Forbes is a clutch shooter and hit some big shots, but was nowhere to be found on defense. And anyone who questions why Rudy Gay is there, that ws the game. He single-handedly kept that from being a blowout long enough for Aldridge and Demar to finally wake up. Also, I hope America finally respects Big Honey's game. He worked LA over like 6 times in the post that night.
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Post by admiralfish on Apr 29, 2019 10:41:32 GMT -5
And sorry Tad, put ginobili on another team he's still a HOF probably with 25+ppg production as the #1 option on a winning team. Parker was the next generation of speed and was a fantastic finisher. Would he be a HOF if not drafted by the spurs? Probably not because he probably wouldn't have won all those chips but he would've been an all star and, again, posted better numbers.
To think Kawhi success, as hard as he works, is based off being drafted by the spurs is insulting and laughable! They drafted him because they knew he was an elite talent and was gonna work his ass off to succeed!!!
Stop it.
The spurs are a class organization and had an amazing 20+ year run. They couldn't win more chips than MY Lakers but it's all good!
It started with David Robinson, who I was a HUGE fan of BTW, but the run has come to an end.
They have to start over.
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Post by tadster00 on Apr 29, 2019 11:08:02 GMT -5
And sorry Tad, put ginobili on another team he's still a HOF probably with 25+ppg production as the #1 option on a winning team. Parker was the next generation of speed and was a fantastic finisher. Would he be a HOF if not drafted by the spurs? Probably not because he probably wouldn't have won all those chips but he would've been an all star and, again, posted better numbers. To think Kawhi success, as hard as he works, is based off being drafted by the spurs is insulting and laughable! They drafted him because they knew he was an elite talent and was gonna work his ass off to succeed!!! Stop it. The spurs are a class organization and had an amazing 20+ year run. They couldn't win more chips than MY Lakers but it's all good! It started with David Robinson, who I was a HUGE fan of BTW, but the run has come to an end. They have to start over. I don't think it's a stretch at all to say the the Spurs deserve much of the credit with Kawhi. The Spurs have one of the most respected shooting coaches in the game in Chip Engelland who tore apart Kawhi's nasty jumpshot he had in college. He wasn't a scorer at all in college, couldn't even create his own shot. Players don't magically become that in the NBA. He was going to be an elite defender and an above average rebound for his position. That much is 100% certain. It's still hypothetical to say he would or wouldn't be the offensive threat that he is, but I don't know what Kool-aid you're drinking if you don't give a franchise that has consistently, greatly developed players a lot of credit. Tony Parker, Danny Green, Garrett Temple, Cory Joseph, Patty Mills, Bryn Forbes, Derrick White. Not all great players, but literally no one wanted Green, Temple, Mills, or Forbes. And I only named a few. You've also got Mahinmi, DeJuan Blair, and Francisco Elson. All these guys were (and some still ended up being) scrubs, but they all had positive roles with the Spurs at different points. You add in a guy with talent like Kawhi and you continue the trend. Come on, don't be stupid. Surely you've learned something over the past 20 years about how the Spurs do what they do. I honestly can't believe I'm having to defend this. I don't even think a rebuild needs to happen. The Warriors are likely done after this year if Durant leaves, and they'll definitely be done the season after that. In two years, DeRozan will be 31, Aldridge will be old at 35, but the youth movement will be done. White, Murray, and Walker will all be as solid as they come as two way guards. I personally see the Spurs contending two seasons from now depending on what pieces the Spurs can pick up at the forward spots.
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Post by mrShowtime on Apr 29, 2019 13:43:19 GMT -5
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Post by admiralfish on Apr 29, 2019 14:25:43 GMT -5
And sorry Tad, put ginobili on another team he's still a HOF probably with 25+ppg production as the #1 option on a winning team. Parker was the next generation of speed and was a fantastic finisher. Would he be a HOF if not drafted by the spurs? Probably not because he probably wouldn't have won all those chips but he would've been an all star and, again, posted better numbers. To think Kawhi success, as hard as he works, is based off being drafted by the spurs is insulting and laughable! They drafted him because they knew he was an elite talent and was gonna work his ass off to succeed!!! Stop it. The spurs are a class organization and had an amazing 20+ year run. They couldn't win more chips than MY Lakers but it's all good! It started with David Robinson, who I was a HUGE fan of BTW, but the run has come to an end. They have to start over. I don't think it's a stretch at all to say the the Spurs deserve much of the credit with Kawhi. The Spurs have one of the most respected shooting coaches in the game in Chip Engelland who tore apart Kawhi's nasty jumpshot he had in college.
He wasn't a scorer at all in college, couldn't even create his own shot. Players don't magically become that in the NBA. He was going to be an elite defender and an above average rebound for his position. That much is 100% certain. It's still hypothetical to say he would or wouldn't be the offensive threat that he is, but I don't know what Kool-aid you're drinking if you don't give a franchise that has consistently, greatly developed players a lot of credit.
Tony Parker, Danny Green, Garrett Temple, Cory Joseph, Patty Mills, Bryn Forbes, Derrick White. Not all great players, but literally no one wanted Green, Temple, Mills, or Forbes. And I only named a few. You've also got Mahinmi, DeJuan Blair, and Francisco Elson. All these guys were (and some still ended up being) scrubs, but they all had positive roles with the Spurs at different points. You add in a guy with talent like Kawhi and you continue the trend. Come on, don't be stupid. Surely you've learned something over the past 20 years about how the Spurs do what they do. I honestly can't believe I'm having to defend this.
I don't even think a rebuild needs to happen. The Warriors are likely done after this year if Durant leaves, and they'll definitely be done the season after that.
In two years, DeRozan will be 31, Aldridge will be old at 35, but the youth movement will be done. White, Murray, and Walker will all be as solid as they come as two way guards. I personally see the Spurs contending two seasons from now depending on what pieces the Spurs can pick up at the forward spots. Dude, stop! You forgot to add sips koolaid at the end!!! If the spurs are so adept at developing stars how come kawhi is the only one you can point to? Them older cats you named are all bums and out of the younger guys Murry will be a stud (which he would be anyway because of his defense) and white seems like he's going to be pretty good but a better complimentary piece to actual stars. Which you dont have. And im sure you're aware all the rest of the teams have shooting coaches etc but ultimately it's up to the PLAYER to put the ACTUAL WORK in and be successful with it! I mean just for contrast, the lakers have 3-4 young guys that are WAY better and have actual star potential and other than maybe murry there isn't a snowballs chance in texas ANY teams around the league would pick ANY of those spurs guys ahead of them. It's a star driven league, AKA, you cant win with ishty mediocre players. People like to point to the pistons last chip team but Chauncey was #3 overall pick. He just took some time to find his game and needed some actual talent to play with. RIP was an all star. Sheed was an all star. Ben is one of the greatest defenders and rebounders to ever play. You have to have legit talent to win. *KICKS OVER TADTI KOOL AID PITCHER*
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Post by admiralfish on Apr 29, 2019 14:27:26 GMT -5
Jamal Murray was asked how high will he guard Damian Lillard due to his deep range. “How high would you guard him?” Murray asked. “I’m gonna stay at the logo. If he pulls up from there, just shake his hand. That’s it.”
DAME!!!!!
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Post by mrShowtime on Apr 29, 2019 15:26:31 GMT -5
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Post by Pain662 on Apr 29, 2019 15:48:31 GMT -5
Nick Friedell: Kerr: “I don’t remember people falling down on 3 point shots all the time when I played. It was a different rule. Once you released the ball you were allowed to make contact, there was no foul. But the game has gotten -there’s so much deception as part of it, as part of the game” – via Twitter NickFriedell
Translation: STFU and play the game, bishes!
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Post by quikdrummer on Apr 29, 2019 16:05:54 GMT -5
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Post by Pain662 on Apr 29, 2019 17:21:04 GMT -5
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Post by admiralfish on Apr 29, 2019 18:03:22 GMT -5
#CLUTCHIGOTHACKEDSCENARIO
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Post by tadster00 on Apr 29, 2019 19:19:44 GMT -5
I don't think it's a stretch at all to say the the Spurs deserve much of the credit with Kawhi. The Spurs have one of the most respected shooting coaches in the game in Chip Engelland who tore apart Kawhi's nasty jumpshot he had in college.
He wasn't a scorer at all in college, couldn't even create his own shot. Players don't magically become that in the NBA. He was going to be an elite defender and an above average rebound for his position. That much is 100% certain. It's still hypothetical to say he would or wouldn't be the offensive threat that he is, but I don't know what Kool-aid you're drinking if you don't give a franchise that has consistently, greatly developed players a lot of credit.
Tony Parker, Danny Green, Garrett Temple, Cory Joseph, Patty Mills, Bryn Forbes, Derrick White. Not all great players, but literally no one wanted Green, Temple, Mills, or Forbes. And I only named a few. You've also got Mahinmi, DeJuan Blair, and Francisco Elson. All these guys were (and some still ended up being) scrubs, but they all had positive roles with the Spurs at different points. You add in a guy with talent like Kawhi and you continue the trend. Come on, don't be stupid. Surely you've learned something over the past 20 years about how the Spurs do what they do. I honestly can't believe I'm having to defend this.
I don't even think a rebuild needs to happen. The Warriors are likely done after this year if Durant leaves, and they'll definitely be done the season after that.
In two years, DeRozan will be 31, Aldridge will be old at 35, but the youth movement will be done. White, Murray, and Walker will all be as solid as they come as two way guards. I personally see the Spurs contending two seasons from now depending on what pieces the Spurs can pick up at the forward spots. Dude, stop! You forgot to add sips koolaid at the end!!! If the spurs are so adept at developing stars how come kawhi is the only one you can point to? Them older cats you named are all bums and out of the younger guys Murry will be a stud (which he would be anyway because of his defense) and white seems like he's going to be pretty good but a better complimentary piece to actual stars. Which you dont have. And im sure you're aware all the rest of the teams have shooting coaches etc but ultimately it's up to the PLAYER to put the ACTUAL WORK in and be successful with it! I mean just for contrast, the lakers have 3-4 young guys that are WAY better and have actual star potential and other than maybe murry there isn't a snowballs chance in texas ANY teams around the league would pick ANY of those spurs guys ahead of them. It's a star driven league, AKA, you cant win with ishty mediocre players. People like to point to the pistons last chip team but Chauncey was #3 overall pick. He just took some time to find his game and needed some actual talent to play with. RIP was an all star. Sheed was an all star. Ben is one of the greatest defenders and rebounders to ever play. You have to have legit talent to win. *KICKS OVER TADTI KOOL AID PITCHER* Your Lakers comments are completely irrelevant. All that young "talent" and LeBron James, and LAL couldn't even sniff the playoffs. Spurs had one of their 'worst' seasons in 2 decades and took the #2 seed to 7 games and arguably should've won. I know you're a LeBron bandwagon fan so you're new to the Western Conference, but races are tight and one big piece like Murray will make a huge difference. You clearly don't know who Chip Engelland is. All I can reference is role players and some scrubs because Kawhi is above them, but the Spurs have consistently taken scrubs and developed them into capable role players. LOOK AT WHERE HE WAS DRAFTED. And they got Kawhi by trading a guy that they drafted with one of the last pics in the 1st round from IUPUI(where???), and developed him(George Hill) into a guy worth trading for a high 1st round pick--nearly a lotto pick. Obviously every player deserves the most credit for their development, but the process that they go through is what determines how far that development goes. The Spurs had only one all-star in 2014 despite having the best record in the Western Conference. And that was a maybe-deserving Tony Parker. Everything that you think is literally proven wrong by what the Spurs have already done. The Spurs have two first round picks in this year's draft, something I don't think they've had since before Duncan, if that. They drafted White with the 2nd to last pick, Murray late in the draft as well. The system works.
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Post by quikdrummer on Apr 29, 2019 19:59:56 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Apr 30, 2019 13:06:48 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Apr 30, 2019 13:09:56 GMT -5
All I can reference is role players and some scrubs because Kawhi is above them, but the Spurs have consistently taken scrubs and developed them into capable role players. LOOK AT WHERE HE WAS DRAFTED. And they got Kawhi by trading a guy that they drafted with one of the last pics in the 1st round from IUPUI(where???), and developed him(George Hill) into a guy worth trading for a high 1st round pick--nearly a lotto pick. The Spurs are a likable version of the Patriots.
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Post by tadster00 on Apr 30, 2019 16:28:37 GMT -5
Haven't watched a new episode yet. Right now we live in a small town where I teach/coach and have sucky internet. Buying our first home 20min away in the city where I'll have good internet. Should be moved by the first week of June. Then I'm gonna watch every episode starting with 1:1
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Post by mrShowtime on Apr 30, 2019 20:56:33 GMT -5
Bucks outscored the Celts by 21 in the 3rd qtr.
This is certainly a tale of two halves.
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Post by Pain662 on May 1, 2019 1:26:41 GMT -5
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