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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 9, 2019 15:26:50 GMT -5
If you thought the Avery Bradley signing was a reach...
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 9, 2019 15:27:44 GMT -5
The league is going to change something in the next CBA. They created the supermax to keep players from leaving. Guys are leaving $50 mil on the table to do what they want. I love it! Teams would and will dump a player quick when it suits their needs. Now the players control their own destiny to an extent. It makes Melo look even worse cuz he chose the money over winning, at least twice. But I think ownership is gonna try and do something to try and block movement. It will fail but they'll try. What are they going to offer now? Movie deals and record contracts?
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Post by Pain662 on Jul 9, 2019 15:43:18 GMT -5
The league is going to change something in the next CBA. They created the supermax to keep players from leaving. Guys are leaving $50 mil on the table to do what they want. I love it! Teams would and will dump a player quick when it suits their needs. Now the players control their own destiny to an extent. It makes Melo look even worse cuz he chose the money over winning, at least twice. But I think ownership is gonna try and do something to try and block movement. It will fail but they'll try. What are they going to offer now? Movie deals and record contracts? I dunno but the small market narrative is dead. Players still want to win but are increasingly looking at what comes after basketball. They aren't content to take big checks from losing teams or to stay where they don't wanna be. I'm not sure how you stop free will. Drake already tried the record deal lol
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Post by Pain662 on Jul 9, 2019 15:51:46 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 9, 2019 16:17:42 GMT -5
Is it like an apartment lease? Can he just get the first season and the last season, then forfeit a deposit?
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Post by Pain662 on Jul 9, 2019 16:39:15 GMT -5
Is it like an apartment lease? Can he just get the first season and the last season, then forfeit a deposit? Interdasted to see Tad's opinion since they made moves to accommodate him.
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Post by tadster00 on Jul 9, 2019 16:46:12 GMT -5
Is it like an apartment lease? Can he just get the first season and the last season, then forfeit a deposit? Interdasted to see Tad's opinion since they made moves to accommodate him. IMO those moves needed to be made anyway. But this does kind of suck. He fits nicely
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Post by Pain662 on Jul 9, 2019 17:11:47 GMT -5
Interdasted to see Tad's opinion since they made moves to accommodate him. IMO those moves needed to be made anyway. But this does kind of suck. He fits nicely Like RIDGE said, anybody going to NY is for a cash grab.
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Post by quikdrummer on Jul 9, 2019 17:54:36 GMT -5
Interdasted to see Tad's opinion since they made moves to accommodate him. IMO those moves needed to be made anyway. But this does kind of suck. He fits nicely Trust me you don’t want a Morris
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Post by tadster00 on Jul 9, 2019 18:09:01 GMT -5
IMO those moves needed to be made anyway. But this does kind of suck. He fits nicely Trust me you don’t want a Morris No that's the other twin
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Post by bbills on Jul 9, 2019 18:44:14 GMT -5
IMO those moves needed to be made anyway. But this does kind of suck. He fits nicely Trust me you don’t want a Morris Disagree
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Post by quikdrummer on Jul 9, 2019 18:56:06 GMT -5
Trust me you don’t want a Morris No that's the other twin They are both horrible
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Post by tadster00 on Jul 9, 2019 19:07:11 GMT -5
Lol it's slim pickings for the Spurs
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Post by bbills on Jul 9, 2019 20:08:55 GMT -5
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Post by bbills on Jul 9, 2019 20:09:45 GMT -5
Lol it's slim pickings for the Spurs No worries the spurs will finish with more wins then the lakers
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Post by Pain662 on Jul 9, 2019 20:24:15 GMT -5
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Post by Pain662 on Jul 9, 2019 21:03:32 GMT -5
Jonathan Feigen: Silver: “My sense in the room today, when it comes to free agency and the rules around it, we have work to do.” Cited level playing field. “My job is to enforce a fair set of rules. I think right now, we’re not quite there.” – via Twitter Jonathan_Feigen
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Post by tadster00 on Jul 9, 2019 21:43:30 GMT -5
What else can they do besides going to non-guaranteed contracts? Serious question
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Post by quikdrummer on Jul 9, 2019 23:17:56 GMT -5
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jul 9, 2019 23:45:54 GMT -5
What else can they do besides going to non-guaranteed contracts? Serious question reintroduce 6 year contracts or go all the way up to 7. A bad contract crippled a franchise further but it’s one way or the other. Also get rid of the super max and potentially consider getting rid of the max all together though that is more drastic
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Post by tadster00 on Jul 10, 2019 0:56:33 GMT -5
What else can they do besides going to non-guaranteed contracts? Serious question reintroduce 6 year contracts or go all the way up to 7. A bad contract crippled a franchise further but it’s one way or the other. Also get rid of the super max and potentially consider getting rid of the max all together though that is more drastic Nothing about this could be done until the new CBA Owners may say non-guaranteed contracts, which the players assoc. would probably never agree to. But it would give the owners(sorry, ahem, governors) leverage in saying that if a player refuses to play after demanding a trade, then we won't pay him. Players would like your option better. One of the best alternatives, a player has to waive a no-trade clause altogether if he demands a trade and can't pick and choose where to go. Also, what if teams could go over the cap(or further over the cap) to trade for a player? No team in their right mind is going to allow a trape to happen to them, right? I.e, if OKC trades Westbrook to GSW, OKC would want a legit haul in return. Let's say GSW gave OKC all their picks, Jordan Poole, and Russell to OKC and somehow those salaries aren't even close to matching because Russ makes a butt ton of money. The league would still have to approve trades. I know that sounds ridiculous, but what is everyone's thoughts on that. This is obviously super unlikely, but I think it's an inderdasting idea.
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Post by Pain662 on Jul 10, 2019 2:50:57 GMT -5
reintroduce 6 year contracts or go all the way up to 7. A bad contract crippled a franchise further but it’s one way or the other. Also get rid of the super max and potentially consider getting rid of the max all together though that is more drastic Nothing about this could be done until the new CBA Owners may say non-guaranteed contracts, which the players assoc. would probably never agree to. But it would give the owners(sorry, ahem, governors) leverage in saying that if a player refuses to play after demanding a trade, then we won't pay him. Players would like your option better. One of the best alternatives, a player has to waive a no-trade clause altogether if he demands a trade and can't pick and choose where to go. Also, what if teams could go over the cap(or further over the cap) to trade for a player? No team in their right mind is going to allow a trape to happen to them, right? I.e, if OKC trades Westbrook to GSW, OKC would want a legit haul in return. Let's say GSW gave OKC all their picks, Jordan Poole, and Russell to OKC and somehow those salaries aren't even close to matching because Russ makes a butt ton of money. The league would still have to approve trades. I know that sounds ridiculous, but what is everyone's thoughts on that. This is obviously super unlikely, but I think it's an inderdasting idea. PA will fight non guaranteed. NFL is trying to get more guaranteed money. Maybe make them give up something if they try and force a trade. There are gonna have to be adjustments made to protect teams financially. I like forcing players to waive trade kickers if they request it. You can try to restrict where but would you turn down what the Clips offered?
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jul 10, 2019 8:53:08 GMT -5
reintroduce 6 year contracts or go all the way up to 7. A bad contract crippled a franchise further but it’s one way or the other. Also get rid of the super max and potentially consider getting rid of the max all together though that is more drastic Nothing about this could be done until the new CBA Owners may say non-guaranteed contracts, which the players assoc. would probably never agree to. But it would give the owners(sorry, ahem, governors) leverage in saying that if a player refuses to play after demanding a trade, then we won't pay him. Players would like your option better. One of the best alternatives, a player has to waive a no-trade clause altogether if he demands a trade and can't pick and choose where to go. Also, what if teams could go over the cap(or further over the cap) to trade for a player? No team in their right mind is going to allow a trape to happen to them, right? I.e, if OKC trades Westbrook to GSW, OKC would want a legit haul in return. Let's say GSW gave OKC all their picks, Jordan Poole, and Russell to OKC and somehow those salaries aren't even close to matching because Russ makes a butt ton of money. The league would still have to approve trades. I know that sounds ridiculous, but what is everyone's thoughts on that. This is obviously super unlikely, but I think it's an inderdasting idea. Non guarantees would never fly, nor do I like the idea. Oh Steph Curry wants to join the Heat? Yep let me just waive these two guys with no penalty and I'll have room for you immediately.
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Post by Pain662 on Jul 10, 2019 8:56:29 GMT -5
Nothing about this could be done until the new CBA Owners may say non-guaranteed contracts, which the players assoc. would probably never agree to. But it would give the owners(sorry, ahem, governors) leverage in saying that if a player refuses to play after demanding a trade, then we won't pay him. Players would like your option better. One of the best alternatives, a player has to waive a no-trade clause altogether if he demands a trade and can't pick and choose where to go. Also, what if teams could go over the cap(or further over the cap) to trade for a player? No team in their right mind is going to allow a trape to happen to them, right? I.e, if OKC trades Westbrook to GSW, OKC would want a legit haul in return. Let's say GSW gave OKC all their picks, Jordan Poole, and Russell to OKC and somehow those salaries aren't even close to matching because Russ makes a butt ton of money. The league would still have to approve trades. I know that sounds ridiculous, but what is everyone's thoughts on that. This is obviously super unlikely, but I think it's an inderdasting idea. Non guarantees would never fly, nor do I like the idea. Oh Steph Curry wants to join the Heat? Yep let me just waive these two guys with no penalty and I'll have room for you immediately. Maybe they try adding non guaranteed clauses that are triggered by trade requests. Forfeit some money if you want out
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jul 10, 2019 8:57:25 GMT -5
Nothing about this could be done until the new CBA Owners may say non-guaranteed contracts, which the players assoc. would probably never agree to. But it would give the owners(sorry, ahem, governors) leverage in saying that if a player refuses to play after demanding a trade, then we won't pay him. Players would like your option better. One of the best alternatives, a player has to waive a no-trade clause altogether if he demands a trade and can't pick and choose where to go. Also, what if teams could go over the cap(or further over the cap) to trade for a player? No team in their right mind is going to allow a trape to happen to them, right? I.e, if OKC trades Westbrook to GSW, OKC would want a legit haul in return. Let's say GSW gave OKC all their picks, Jordan Poole, and Russell to OKC and somehow those salaries aren't even close to matching because Russ makes a butt ton of money. The league would still have to approve trades. I know that sounds ridiculous, but what is everyone's thoughts on that. This is obviously super unlikely, but I think it's an inderdasting idea. PA will fight non guaranteed. NFL is trying to get more guaranteed money. Maybe make them give up something if they try and force a trade. There are gonna have to be adjustments made to protect teams financially. I like forcing players to waive trade kickers if they request it. You can try to restrict where but would you turn down what the Clips offered? In soccer (well not MLS because they follow their Americanized rules), there is something called a loyalty bonus in a contract. If you fulfill the entirety of the contract you sign, you get awarded that bonus. When a player hands in a transfer request, he is forgoing his loyalty bonus. Maybe something like X percentage of your salary is a loyalty bonus. This bonus does not count against the cap and is awarded at the end of every fulfilled contract. If player X gets traded because the team opted to go in a different direction, the team can still choose to award that bonus in good faith
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 10, 2019 9:00:41 GMT -5
Another team to watch out for in the Russell Westbrook sweepstakes?
The Orlando Magic.
Orlando is highly interested in Brodie.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 10, 2019 9:01:35 GMT -5
PA will fight non guaranteed. NFL is trying to get more guaranteed money. Maybe make them give up something if they try and force a trade. There are gonna have to be adjustments made to protect teams financially. I like forcing players to waive trade kickers if they request it. You can try to restrict where but would you turn down what the Clips offered? In soccer (well not MLS because they follow their Americanized rules), there is something called a loyalty bonus in a contract. If you fulfill the entirety of the contract you sign, you get awarded that bonus. When a player hands in a transfer request, he is forgoing his loyalty bonus. Maybe something like X percentage of your salary is a loyalty bonus. This bonus does not count against the cap and is awarded at the end of every fulfilled contract. If player X gets traded because the team opted to go in a different direction, the team can still choose to award that bonus in good faith How would this have a different impact than the Super-Max?
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 10, 2019 9:18:01 GMT -5
The Thunder have discussed Dennis Schröder trades with multiple teams, per league source.
Kings, Bulls and Suns all have interest — a deal with Sacramento was close to being firm, but Oklahoma City refused to include Terrence Ferguson in the deal.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 10, 2019 9:18:33 GMT -5
Oklahoma City is the busiest team in the league right now - taking calls on Brodie, Adams, Schröder and Andre Roberson, source tells me.
Roberson - an elite defender —coming off a huge injury, could help a ready to win now team.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jul 10, 2019 9:19:27 GMT -5
Another sleeper team in the Westbrook sweepstakes?
The Spurs.
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