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Post by mrShowtime on Mar 20, 2017 8:54:23 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Mar 21, 2017 11:56:28 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Mar 21, 2017 11:57:31 GMT -5
I remember back when new logos were introduced around draft time. My brother and I would watch the full-day draft coverage and try to figure out who got a new logo.
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Post by mrShowtime on Mar 21, 2017 14:39:21 GMT -5
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Post by tadster00 on Mar 22, 2017 9:06:33 GMT -5
Caught the tail end of the Spurs-Wolves game last night after getting home late from a junior high track meet
It was another blown lead for the Wolves who were up double digits at halftime. I haven't seen very much of Minny this year, maybe two games in different parts of both. My main thought about their issue about blowing leads isn't so much about defense as it is about their guys taking terrible shots when they have a solid lead. Wiggins tries to go off and be Kobe and KAT steps out and launches threes. These guys are trying to be super heroes when 1. They're not that good yet, especially Wiggins; and 2. they're still just 22 and 21 so maturity and when to take what shot hasn't developed in their game yet.
I've also had thoughts about this during March Madness and after watching several NBA games. I hate the one-and-done. Always have. It may not look like it really effects the play of the NBA, but so many freshman have so much potential but never live up to it after coming to the NBA at 19. Ben Simmons is still up for debate, but he's one that I think will never be a star in the league for this main reason...he has no idea how to lead a team. This is the problem with Wiggins and Towns.
Wiggins honestly should know how because he went to Kansas where the Jayhawks are usually led by veterans(like this year), but the year he was there they were abnormally young for being KU. Towns went to One-and-Done University.
Then I look at a team like Wichita State. They're a mid-major, very much led by upperclassmen. But they have freshmen that step up and hit big shots. These guys are going to develop into great leaders of teams who understand what it takes to win..the only problem is they don't have the talent of Wiggins or Towns. My point being that if these kids at WSU had the talent of the two Timberwolve pups then they probably would become starts in the NBA. But you're expecting a 21 and 22 year old to lead your team right now.
Don't get me wrong, I think the sky is the limit for Minny, but you will never have instant success with 19 year olds, and it may always take until they're 22-23 to really hit their stride in the NBA..which is the age most kids graduate college.
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Post by mrShowtime on Mar 22, 2017 10:09:25 GMT -5
Caught the tail end of the Spurs-Wolves game last night after getting home late from a junior high track meet It was another blown lead for the Wolves who were up double digits at halftime. I haven't seen very much of Minny this year, maybe two games in different parts of both. My main thought about their issue about blowing leads isn't so much about defense as it is about their guys taking terrible shots when they have a solid lead. Wiggins tries to go off and be Kobe and KAT steps out and launches threes. These guys are trying to be super heroes when 1. They're not that good yet, especially Wiggins; and 2. they're still just 22 and 21 so maturity and when to take what shot hasn't developed in their game yet. I've also had thoughts about this during March Madness and after watching several NBA games. I hate the one-and-done. Always have. It may not look like it really effects the play of the NBA, but so many freshman have so much potential but never live up to it after coming to the NBA at 19. Ben Simmons is still up for debate, but he's one that I think will never be a star in the league for this main reason...he has no idea how to lead a team. This is the problem with Wiggins and Towns. Wiggins honestly should know how because he went to Kansas where the Jayhawks are usually led by veterans(like this year), but the year he was there they were abnormally young for being KU. Towns went to One-and-Done University. Then I look at a team like Wichita State. They're a mid-major, very much led by upperclassmen. But they have freshmen that step up and hit big shots. These guys are going to develop into great leaders of teams who understand what it takes to win..the only problem is they don't have the talent of Wiggins or Towns. My point being that if these kids at WSU had the talent of the two Timberwolve pups then they probably would become starts in the NBA. But you're expecting a 21 and 22 year old to lead your team right now. Don't get me wrong, I think the sky is the limit for Minny, but you will never have instant success with 19 year olds, and it may always take until they're 22-23 to really hit their stride in the NBA..which is the age most kids graduate college. 1. No honeymoon? 2. The Timberwolves experiment is going to take time. However, it doesn't look like a Thibodeau team. It makes me wonder if the Chicago situation has him second-guessing his tactics and pulling back a bit. Or, he's leaving most of it in the hands of his assistants while he focuses more on big picture. Most of the staff look to be Thibodeau's guys, but the Player Development Coach is a rookie and may have his hands full with such young egos. 3. I feel like the one-and-done is slightly waning. I wholeheartedly agree that these guys are coming into the NBA as projects rather than contributors. I can't help but imagine how effective guys like Brandon Ingram or Jamal Murray could've been after being seasoned one or two more years in college. So what is the answer? From the kid's perspective, you gotta cash that lottery ticket when you can get it. From the team's perspective, you'd rather lock up that potential before someone else gets to it because the sky's the limit. Maybe the answer is to do what they used to back in the 70s. Maybe players can declare for the draft, but only have the rights to their eligibility selected and they spend 1-2 more years playing college ball before they join the team. But how does that work? Does the team pay the kid to play college ball? Isn't that what the NBDL is for? Maybe NBA rookies should have to play one season in the NBDL before getting a roster spot (a la many MLB teams). Of course, you could then make the argument that they could better than some of the players already on the roster and then we're having the discussion about how the NBA is too big and the talent spread too thin... 4. "Timberwolf," not "Timberwolve" |
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Post by mrShowtime on Mar 22, 2017 15:20:55 GMT -5
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Post by tadster00 on Mar 22, 2017 17:31:22 GMT -5
Caught the tail end of the Spurs-Wolves game last night after getting home late from a junior high track meet It was another blown lead for the Wolves who were up double digits at halftime. I haven't seen very much of Minny this year, maybe two games in different parts of both. My main thought about their issue about blowing leads isn't so much about defense as it is about their guys taking terrible shots when they have a solid lead. Wiggins tries to go off and be Kobe and KAT steps out and launches threes. These guys are trying to be super heroes when 1. They're not that good yet, especially Wiggins; and 2. they're still just 22 and 21 so maturity and when to take what shot hasn't developed in their game yet. I've also had thoughts about this during March Madness and after watching several NBA games. I hate the one-and-done. Always have. It may not look like it really effects the play of the NBA, but so many freshman have so much potential but never live up to it after coming to the NBA at 19. Ben Simmons is still up for debate, but he's one that I think will never be a star in the league for this main reason...he has no idea how to lead a team. This is the problem with Wiggins and Towns. Wiggins honestly should know how because he went to Kansas where the Jayhawks are usually led by veterans(like this year), but the year he was there they were abnormally young for being KU. Towns went to One-and-Done University. Then I look at a team like Wichita State. They're a mid-major, very much led by upperclassmen. But they have freshmen that step up and hit big shots. These guys are going to develop into great leaders of teams who understand what it takes to win..the only problem is they don't have the talent of Wiggins or Towns. My point being that if these kids at WSU had the talent of the two Timberwolve pups then they probably would become starts in the NBA. But you're expecting a 21 and 22 year old to lead your team right now. Don't get me wrong, I think the sky is the limit for Minny, but you will never have instant success with 19 year olds, and it may always take until they're 22-23 to really hit their stride in the NBA..which is the age most kids graduate college. 1. No honeymoon? 2. The Timberwolves experiment is going to take time. However, it doesn't look like a Thibodeau team. It makes me wonder if the Chicago situation has him second-guessing his tactics and pulling back a bit. Or, he's leaving most of it in the hands of his assistants while he focuses more on big picture. Most of the staff look to be Thibodeau's guys, but the Player Development Coach is a rookie and may have his hands full with such young egos. 3. I feel like the one-and-done is slightly waning. I wholeheartedly agree that these guys are coming into the NBA as projects rather than contributors. I can't help but imagine how effective guys like Brandon Ingram or Jamal Murray could've been after being seasoned one or two more years in college. So what is the answer? From the kid's perspective, you gotta cash that lottery ticket when you can get it. From the team's perspective, you'd rather lock up that potential before someone else gets to it because the sky's the limit. Maybe the answer is to do what they used to back in the 70s. Maybe players can declare for the draft, but only have the rights to their eligibility selected and they spend 1-2 more years playing college ball before they join the team. But how does that work? Does the team pay the kid to play college ball? Isn't that what the NBDL is for? Maybe NBA rookies should have to play one season in the NBDL before getting a roster spot (a la many MLB teams). Of course, you could then make the argument that they could better than some of the players already on the roster and then we're having the discussion about how the NBA is too big and the talent spread too thin... 4. "Timberwolf," not "Timberwolve" Lol honeymoon had to end with spring break ending this past month. Junior high track will make you want to kill yourself. #3. This would be unpopular, but I would love I think they should go to the US MLB rule which is that players can either go pro right out of high school, or stay in college for 3 years at least. I think this works great for baseball, but of course you have a billion rounds in that sport. But guys like David Price and Justin Verlander come to mind and fairly immediate impact guys who spent their years in college. Trout and Bryce Harper both spent a few years in the minors.. enough of baseball. My rule would be that a high school draftee cannot make his NBA debut until after the all-star break, but will still make his money obviously. He'll spend at least that first half of the season in the D-League(I kinda go back and forth with this idea). Junior and senior draftees will obviously be allowed to be on the roster right away. I think this helps the quality of play in the NBA, and arguably the defense specifically. I think it allows the once in a generation player to get in basically right away also. The immediate impact of this rule may hurt the youth movement of the league, but only for 2-3 seasons. And how many all-stars have been 2nd or 3rd year players since '06. KD is the only one off the top of my head(maybe Griff?). 4. Touche |
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Post by DB13 on Mar 23, 2017 12:09:45 GMT -5
Man I didn't realize until I saw the West standings that Utah is #4? I would have never guessed...
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Post by tadster00 on Mar 23, 2017 13:05:02 GMT -5
Man I didn't realize until I saw the West standings that Utah is #4? I would have never guessed... Well they're also 2 losses away from being #7 How about Denver being in the playoffs picture right now though? |
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Post by bbills on Mar 23, 2017 16:55:59 GMT -5
Finished iron fist. I was disappointed
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Mar 24, 2017 3:27:02 GMT -5
Caught the tail end of the Spurs-Wolves game last night after getting home late from a junior high track meet It was another blown lead for the Wolves who were up double digits at halftime. I haven't seen very much of Minny this year, maybe two games in different parts of both. My main thought about their issue about blowing leads isn't so much about defense as it is about their guys taking terrible shots when they have a solid lead. Wiggins tries to go off and be Kobe and KAT steps out and launches threes. These guys are trying to be super heroes when 1. They're not that good yet, especially Wiggins; and 2. they're still just 22 and 21 so maturity and when to take what shot hasn't developed in their game yet. I've also had thoughts about this during March Madness and after watching several NBA games. I hate the one-and-done. Always have. It may not look like it really effects the play of the NBA, but so many freshman have so much potential but never live up to it after coming to the NBA at 19. Ben Simmons is still up for debate, but he's one that I think will never be a star in the league for this main reason...he has no idea how to lead a team. This is the problem with Wiggins and Towns. Wiggins honestly should know how because he went to Kansas where the Jayhawks are usually led by veterans(like this year), but the year he was there they were abnormally young for being KU. Towns went to One-and-Done University. Then I look at a team like Wichita State. They're a mid-major, very much led by upperclassmen. But they have freshmen that step up and hit big shots. These guys are going to develop into great leaders of teams who understand what it takes to win..the only problem is they don't have the talent of Wiggins or Towns. My point being that if these kids at WSU had the talent of the two Timberwolve pups then they probably would become starts in the NBA. But you're expecting a 21 and 22 year old to lead your team right now. Don't get me wrong, I think the sky is the limit for Minny, but you will never have instant success with 19 year olds, and it may always take until they're 22-23 to really hit their stride in the NBA..which is the age most kids graduate college. you might remember but I was not high on Wiggins at the draft. Right now he looks like another Rudy Gay. The Timberwolves would be smart to trade him while he still has name value. They need some veterans on that team too that know how to win. Bet Taj Gibson gets pursued by them this summer. |
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Post by tadster00 on Mar 24, 2017 22:12:41 GMT -5
Devin Booker just dropped 70
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Post by mrShowtime on Mar 24, 2017 22:40:30 GMT -5
Devin Booker just dropped 70 Only two other players scored in double figures and they lost. That's actually kind of embarrassing. |
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Post by quikdrummer on Mar 25, 2017 4:36:18 GMT -5
Devin Booker just dropped 70 Only two other players scored in double figures and they lost. That's actually kind of embarrassing. And Watson coached them to keep fouling and extending the game to get booker more buckets. Then afterwards in the press conference said "they don't like it, do something about it." I think he's trying to get booker killed. |
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Post by mrShowtime on Mar 25, 2017 10:22:35 GMT -5
Only two other players scored in double figures and they lost. That's actually kind of embarrassing. And Watson coached them to keep fouling and extending the game to get booker more buckets. Then afterwards in the press conference said "they don't like it, do something about it." I think he's trying to get booker killed. That's even more embarrassing. |
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Post by tadster00 on Mar 25, 2017 12:44:07 GMT -5
And Watson coached them to keep fouling and extending the game to get booker more buckets. Then afterwards in the press conference said "they don't like it, do something about it." I think he's trying to get booker killed. That's even more embarrassing. so is this  |
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Post by quikdrummer on Mar 25, 2017 14:25:03 GMT -5
That's even more embarrassing. so is this Yeah none of it is a good look at all |
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Post by mrShowtime on Mar 26, 2017 18:07:35 GMT -5
Yeah none of it is a good look at all How are the locals reacting (news/radio/etc)? |
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Post by quikdrummer on Mar 26, 2017 21:36:51 GMT -5
Yeah none of it is a good look at all How are the locals reacting (news/radio/etc)? No idea. Only thing I saw was the post game show where they were drooling over the 70 points. |
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