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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 12, 2017 9:28:40 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 12, 2017 9:29:28 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 12, 2017 9:35:18 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 12, 2017 9:51:02 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 12, 2017 10:14:54 GMT -5
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 12, 2017 11:27:13 GMT -5
Bbills
To answer your question. I did not stop cuz those extra practices include time with the trainer. I don't do as many but usually a couple a week and always the one b4 a game. Supposedly you can get more thru MyPark but I don't have PSPlus anymore. And no, it doesn't start over in season 2.
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 12, 2017 11:49:00 GMT -5
And you still get +1 stamina, hustle, and intangibles in the extra practices.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 12, 2017 14:49:10 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 12, 2017 14:55:12 GMT -5
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 12, 2017 20:19:00 GMT -5
Bbills To answer your question. I did not stop cuz those extra practices include time with the trainer. I don't do as many but usually a couple a week and always the one b4 a game. Supposedly you can get more thru MyPark but I don't have PSPlus anymore. And no, it doesn't start over in season 2. I usually just go and lift weights to put the meter all the way up. 20 total reps on the hang clean and it fills up the meter then I'm done. |
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 12, 2017 22:09:21 GMT -5
I've actually been convinced of this for a while. Obviously the NBA doesn't control the outcome of games, but they can definitely influence it. The first half of game 4 seemed so obvious to me
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jun 12, 2017 22:51:59 GMT -5
Who could have predicted these finals?!?!
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 13, 2017 0:01:08 GMT -5
Who could have predicted these finals?!?! |
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 13, 2017 0:31:35 GMT -5
Bbills To answer your question. I did not stop cuz those extra practices include time with the trainer. I don't do as many but usually a couple a week and always the one b4 a game. Supposedly you can get more thru MyPark but I don't have PSPlus anymore. And no, it doesn't start over in season 2. I usually just go and lift weights to put the meter all the way up. 20 total reps on the hang clean and it fills up the meter then I'm done. 4 box jumps fills the meter, too. |
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Post by bbills on Jun 13, 2017 7:14:51 GMT -5
I usually just go and lift weights to put the meter all the way up. 20 total reps on the hang clean and it fills up the meter then I'm done. 4 box jumps fills the meter, too. Wait you can go into the weight room? |
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 13, 2017 7:28:28 GMT -5
4 box jumps fills the meter, too. Wait you can go into the weight room? Ya but you have to wait for someone to ask and say no for the room room to open |
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 13, 2017 9:31:49 GMT -5
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 13, 2017 10:20:31 GMT -5
AZ ranked 49 out of 50 states for highway safety. Don't I know it lol
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 13, 2017 10:24:15 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 13, 2017 10:29:36 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 13, 2017 10:30:11 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 13, 2017 11:04:22 GMT -5
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 13, 2017 12:08:49 GMT -5
"I don't believe in that. I believe we're a super team here. So, no." He mad |
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 13, 2017 12:19:24 GMT -5
Read an article that said the Cavs' downfall was their lack of 2 way players. We've talked about this. Can't compete against a team of 2 way players when you have to sub in for defense and offense. Too many guys in this league tat only do 1 thing well and usually it's not defense. Those that defend generally can't score. LeBron may not win another title. Durant is going to take less money to keep the core intact. Livingston and Iggy will be back. It took all they had just not to get swept. Read another that said that this is because of LeBron's greatness that thus Warriors team was built. Can't fault that logic either.
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 13, 2017 14:36:15 GMT -5
While this Finals was the most anticlimactic I've ever seen, I did enjoy finally seeing the games two best players go against each other. And Durant really was outstanding.
Also Lebron is the first player ever to average a triple-double in the NBA Finals. This is a HUGE if, but if Lebron had won the last two Finals, and had 5 rings, would we consider him the GOAT? To me, what's he done in the Finals the past 6 years has been absolutely outstanding. I think it's a conversation that needs to be taken more seriously.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 13, 2017 15:32:16 GMT -5
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 13, 2017 16:20:49 GMT -5
While this Finals was the most anticlimactic I've ever seen, I did enjoy finally seeing the games two best players go against each other. And Durant really was outstanding. Also Lebron is the first player ever to average a triple-double in the NBA Finals. This is a HUGE if, but if Lebron had won the last two Finals, and had 5 rings, would we consider him the GOAT? To me, what's he done in the Finals the past 6 years has been absolutely outstanding. I think it's a conversation that needs to be taken more seriously. I think the reasons that keep people from accepting that are the same reasons he doesn't have more rings. He is by far the greatest player of this generation but, Jordan wanted to be the best player every time he stepped on the court. Jordan wanted to be the GOAT. Lebron wanted to be the first player billionaire. There was no quit in Jordan, but we've seen Lebron quit. I recognize his greatness but still have a hard time calling him the GOAT because I still doubt his heart. |
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 13, 2017 16:26:02 GMT -5
While this Finals was the most anticlimactic I've ever seen, I did enjoy finally seeing the games two best players go against each other. And Durant really was outstanding. Also Lebron is the first player ever to average a triple-double in the NBA Finals. This is a HUGE if, but if Lebron had won the last two Finals, and had 5 rings, would we consider him the GOAT? To me, what's he done in the Finals the past 6 years has been absolutely outstanding. I think it's a conversation that needs to be taken more seriously. I think the reasons that keep people from accepting that are the same reasons he doesn't have more rings. He is by far the greatest player of this generation but, Jordan wanted to be the best player every time he stepped on the court. Jordan wanted to be the GOAT. Lebron wanted to be the first player billionaire. There was no quit in Jordan, but we've seen Lebron quit. I recognize his greatness but still have a hard time calling him the GOAT because I still doubt his heart. that's a good reason. I just think the easy way out of the convo is just saying "Well Jordan is 6 & 0 so obviously he's the GOAT"...I'm just not sure that's good enough to win the argument. But I do like what you're saying |
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 13, 2017 17:03:01 GMT -5
I think the reasons that keep people from accepting that are the same reasons he doesn't have more rings. He is by far the greatest player of this generation but, Jordan wanted to be the best player every time he stepped on the court. Jordan wanted to be the GOAT. Lebron wanted to be the first player billionaire. There was no quit in Jordan, but we've seen Lebron quit. I recognize his greatness but still have a hard time calling him the GOAT because I still doubt his heart. that's a good reason. I just think the easy way out of the convo is just saying "Well Jordan is 6 & 0 so obviously he's the GOAT"...I'm just not sure that's good enough to win the argument. But I do like what you're saying Pain is spot-on. We also have to acknowledge that we've come to expect that the top dogs take over and do it themselves when it really matters. Jordan and Kobe did this regularly. Allen Iverson did it (maybe too much). Larry Bird did it. Clyde Frazier did it in 1970. (I kind of feel like the big man in the old NBA was designed to do it. You fed the ball to Shaq, Olajuwon, Kareem, Robinson, Ewing, Duncan, Malone, etc. They didn't quite carry the team in the same way because they weren't bringing the ball down the floor.) LeBron is a better basketball player than all of the aforementioned (except for MJ). It's nothing for him to score 30. He could likely score 40+, but he's too much of a coach. He's too interested in getting other players involved. He's accepted the point guard role a bit too heavily for what we're used to. Who does the best player in the game pass the ball to? Why is the best player in the game assisting on 10+ buckets a game? We put too much emphasis on LeBron's triple double without breaking it down to see what it actually means. It means that he's playing on a team with guys who aren't big scorers, yet he's racking up assists. Sure, Kyrie has looked like the best pure-scorer on the club, but very few of his buckets are assisted. Nearly all of JR and KLove's buckets were, which means too much offensive emphasis is put on the role-players. If LeBron passed the ball less, he could've averaged 40 in the Finals with a few 50-point games thrown in. We've already acknowledged that this wouldn't hurt Kyrie's production and suddenly this is a different series. I've got a lot more to say, but I plan to do a full write-up on this very soon, so I'll save the numbers and the historical comparisons for later. |
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 13, 2017 17:05:11 GMT -5
I think the reasons that keep people from accepting that are the same reasons he doesn't have more rings. He is by far the greatest player of this generation but, Jordan wanted to be the best player every time he stepped on the court. Jordan wanted to be the GOAT. Lebron wanted to be the first player billionaire. There was no quit in Jordan, but we've seen Lebron quit. I recognize his greatness but still have a hard time calling him the GOAT because I still doubt his heart. that's a good reason. I just think the easy way out of the convo is just saying "Well Jordan is 6 & 0 so obviously he's the GOAT"...I'm just not sure that's good enough to win the argument. But I do like what you're saying I think it's a generational thing. There will be people that refuse to put Jordan over Wilt or Russell. But along those lines, Jordan is 6-0 for the same reasons Lebron isn't. It all goes back to heart, to me. The numbers mean nothing without context. We haven't even touched on how differently the game is played now vs then. I agree that just saying 6-0 wins is not a fair way to compare. There has to be substance behind the argument. |
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