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Post by andrew420 on Jun 1, 2018 8:22:35 GMT -5
I thought Spliff had applied enough hotsauce to take Klay out but apparently not. Sure wish the Cavs couldda pulled that one out to help make series last longer
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 1, 2018 9:18:53 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 1, 2018 9:20:43 GMT -5
June 1st. That means Drew must already have a pair of these on order.  |
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 1, 2018 12:12:36 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 1, 2018 12:29:23 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 1, 2018 12:29:43 GMT -5
LOL!!!
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 1, 2018 14:48:03 GMT -5
Uh oh Show!
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Post by andrew420 on Jun 1, 2018 14:48:36 GMT -5
June 1st. That means Drew must already have a pair of these on order. Lol! How big patsa of all people get his own shoe line?!?! What the selling point extra sweat absorbtion?!? |
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 1, 2018 15:36:25 GMT -5
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! #unfinishedbusiness |
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 1, 2018 15:38:45 GMT -5
June 1st. That means Drew must already have a pair of these on order. Lol! How big patsa of all people get his own shoe line?!?! What the selling point extra sweat absorbtion?!? After looking at the different styles website, I'm not sure Ewing knows what decade it is.    |
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Post by admiralfish on Jun 1, 2018 18:36:07 GMT -5
All I know is I haven't seen a ref job game on this level since Lakers vs queens and even then the Lakers were attacking and earned all them free throws....
That ish last night was just simply "no, we don't want you to win tonight LeBron" blatant blown calls them overturn a CALLED charge a 3 on court refs agreed on?!?
UNREAL
And still he overcame all that nonsense and carried them to the brink of victory only for Jr Smith to go full blown Jr Smith.
A got damn low down dirty rotten SHAME!!!
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Post by andrew420 on Jun 1, 2018 19:24:33 GMT -5
@show u GOTTA find the video of Spliff running off the court and straight into the liquor store with Lue & Brons reaction its amazing!
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Post by andrew420 on Jun 1, 2018 20:47:48 GMT -5
Lol! How big patsa of all people get his own shoe line?!?! What the selling point extra sweat absorbtion?!? After looking at the different styles website, I'm not sure Ewing knows what decade it is. Lmao at not knowing what decade it is i thought same thing when popped up in search results thinking da f these old a$$ ewings doin |
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Post by andrew420 on Jun 1, 2018 20:49:41 GMT -5
Holy sh!t them ewings $120?!?!?! I wouldnt pay $.50 for them
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Post by quikdrummer on Jun 1, 2018 20:59:11 GMT -5
@show u GOTTA find the video of Spliff running off the court and straight into the liquor store with Lue & Brons reaction its amazing! Look up a few posts |
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 2, 2018 16:12:17 GMT -5
BTDub, the reversal was the right call. He was still moving. I saw it in real time and I saw it in every replay.
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 2, 2018 20:15:12 GMT -5
BTDub, the reversal was the right call. He was still moving. I saw it in real time and I saw it in every replay. it was close. Depends on your interpretation of the rule. I didn't have a prob with them overturning. Could've gone either way. |
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jun 3, 2018 8:37:00 GMT -5
To rehash what Bbills said, I fully agree that Lebron makes his teammates worse. For as great as he is, Lebron doesn't know how to play a 2 man game. The ones who worked best with him, Wade and Irving, were guys who did their thing with the ball in their hands, while Lebron "rested" offensively and acted as a decoy. Everything else though, is catch and shoot. Let's take a look at his "star teammates" over the years.
Antawn Jamison:
Season of the trade-
Washington: 20.5ppg, 8.8rpg, 5.3fta, 45% fg
Cleveland: 15.8ppg, 7.7rpg, 3.3fta, 49% fg
Following season, after Lebron left:
18ppg, 6.7rpg, 4.2fta, 43% fg
Chris Bosh:
Final season with Lebron:
16.2ppg, 6.6rpg, 3.4fta, 52% fg
First season without Lebron:
21.1ppg, 7rpg, 5.3 fta, 46% fg
I understand Bosh was a third option, but I also think that at that point, Bosh was the 2nd best player on the Heat and Lebron should have been able to utilize him more, to at least make him perform as a 2nd option. We saw after LBJ left, that Bosh still had enough left in the tank. Instead, Bosh was limited to a "stand around and wait for an open jump shot" player.
Kevin Love:
With Timberwolves:
26.1 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 8.2fta, 46% fg
First season with Lebron:
16.4 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 4.3 fta, 43% fg
This season with Lebron (since you can't argue he's only 3rd option here):
17.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 4.5 fta, 46% fg
His stats have declined sharply. For all his defensive deficiencies, his offensive game should not decline as much as it has. Truth is, he hasn't been used properly, as Lebron does not know how to use him. Love is much more than just a spot up shooter, but Lebron doesn't know how to play with a different skillset. Love should be given opportunities to work down low and draw fouls as he use to.
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Post by admiralfish on Jun 3, 2018 15:18:58 GMT -5
Oh so now LeBron is supposed to make love stay healthy and not brick shots? He gets him WIDE open shots and keeps him in one on one situations instead of double teams. It's on HIM to perform and finish!
As far as those hollow ass stats the wolves stunk terribly with love posting those numbers and posting numbers on ishty teams is about the easiest thing for a player to do. An aged antawn Jamison numbers went up post LeBron on a bad lottery team.
Yay!
#FOH
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 3, 2018 15:33:55 GMT -5
Oh so now LeBron is supposed to make love stay healthy and not brick shots? He gets him WIDE open shots and keeps him in one on one situations instead of double teams. It's on HIM to perform and finish! As far as those hollow ass stats the wolves stunk terribly with love posting those numbers and posting numbers on ishty teams is about the easiest thing for a player to do. An aged antawn Jamison numbers went up post LeBron on a bad lottery team. Yay! #FOH You kinda proved his point. He turns everyone into a stand around jump shooter instead of utilizing their skill set. Points either come from his drive and kick or from rebounds off his misses. |
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 3, 2018 19:19:38 GMT -5
To rehash what Bbills said, I fully agree that Lebron makes his teammates worse. For as great as he is, Lebron doesn't know how to play a 2 man game. The ones who worked best with him, Wade and Irving, were guys who did their thing with the ball in their hands, while Lebron "rested" offensively and acted as a decoy. Everything else though, is catch and shoot. Let's take a look at his "star teammates" over the years. Antawn Jamison: Season of the trade- Washington: 20.5ppg, 8.8rpg, 5.3fta, 45% fg Cleveland: 15.8ppg, 7.7rpg, 3.3fta, 49% fg Following season, after Lebron left: 18ppg, 6.7rpg, 4.2fta, 43% fg Chris Bosh: Final season with Lebron: 16.2ppg, 6.6rpg, 3.4fta, 52% fg First season without Lebron: 21.1ppg, 7rpg, 5.3 fta, 46% fg I understand Bosh was a third option, but I also think that at that point, Bosh was the 2nd best player on the Heat and Lebron should have been able to utilize him more, to at least make him perform as a 2nd option. We saw after LBJ left, that Bosh still had enough left in the tank. Instead, Bosh was limited to a "stand around and wait for an open jump shot" player. Kevin Love: With Timberwolves: 26.1 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 8.2fta, 46% fg First season with Lebron: 16.4 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 4.3 fta, 43% fg This season with Lebron (since you can't argue he's only 3rd option here): 17.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 4.5 fta, 46% fg His stats have declined sharply. For all his defensive deficiencies, his offensive game should not decline as much as it has. Truth is, he hasn't been used properly, as Lebron does not know how to use him. Love is much more than just a spot up shooter, but Lebron doesn't know how to play with a different skillset. Love should be given opportunities to work down low and draw fouls as he use to. PPG are naturally going to go down with LeBrown on your team as the offensive focus changes. I'm more interested in RPG, APG, and defense and hustle stats. No time to look them up right now. Maybe tomorrow. Kevin Love's stat changes are more a reflection of how Blatt used him. Blatt wanted him to exclusively be a stretch 4. That's naturally going to affect his rebounding and offensive stats. But, as Pain mentioned, and I think you're getting at is that LeBron (and his fans) want to play the angle that the guys surrounding him are chumps, when the numbers show that they can actually hold their own fairly well in this league and in the right gameplan, could be considerable contributors offensively to take the burden off of James. |
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Post by admiralfish on Jun 4, 2018 10:06:37 GMT -5
Wtf? So LeBron James is responsible for Jordan Clarkson airballing a wideopen jumper...from the free throw line area?! Was he even in the game when that happened? It's his fault Rodney hood is a defenseless, inefficient offensive black hole? His fault hill don't show up every night as he hasn't his whole career??
IT WAS HIS FUNKING FAULT JR RAN OUT OF BOUNDS TO THE HENNY STORE?!?
STOP IT!!!
With wade and bosh he won 2 world championships.
With kyrie, a legit offensive weapon as mentioned who was an ALL STAR playing WITH him getting 20+ a night, he won a championship and probably would've won 2 if he didn't go down game one of the finals.
Previously with donyell, Wesley, big OLD Z, sideshow Bob, Larry Hughes, Eric snow, brown, boobie, amon ones, pavlavic and pollard he was shockingly unable to beat the spurs big 3 HOF
Like now facing thewarriors with their FOUR HOF and he has jr Smith and tkevin!
WTF?!?!?
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 4, 2018 11:02:51 GMT -5
Wtf? So LeBron James is responsible for Jordan Clarkson airballing a wideopen jumper...from the free throw line area?! Was he even in the game when that happened? It's his fault Rodney hood is a defenseless, inefficient offensive black hole? His fault hill don't show up every night as he hasn't his whole career?? IT WAS HIS FUNKING FAULT JR RAN OUT OF BOUNDS TO THE HENNY STORE?!? STOP IT!!! With wade and bosh he won 2 world championships. With kyrie, a legit offensive weapon as mentioned who was an ALL STAR playing WITH him getting 20+ a night, he won a championship and probably would've won 2 if he didn't go down game one of the finals. Previously with donyell, Wesley, big OLD Z, sideshow Bob, Larry Hughes, Eric snow, brown, boobie, amon ones, pavlavic and pollard he was shockingly unable to beat the spurs big 3 HOF Like now facing thewarriors with their FOUR HOF and he has jr Smith and tkevin! WTF?!?!? I see your point, but my criticism is not pointed at LeBron. When this happened to MJ, it was MJ's fault. I don't think this is LBJ's fault as much as it is the offensive strategy that distrusts contributing players and creates the mentality that they are there to watch. Fans naturally have the mentality that LBJ must save the day and the other players seem to follow suit. |
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 4, 2018 11:24:59 GMT -5
Wtf? So LeBron James is responsible for Jordan Clarkson airballing a wideopen jumper...from the free throw line area?! Was he even in the game when that happened? It's his fault Rodney hood is a defenseless, inefficient offensive black hole? His fault hill don't show up every night as he hasn't his whole career?? IT WAS HIS FUNKING FAULT JR RAN OUT OF BOUNDS TO THE HENNY STORE?!? STOP IT!!! With wade and bosh he won 2 world championships. With kyrie, a legit offensive weapon as mentioned who was an ALL STAR playing WITH him getting 20+ a night, he won a championship and probably would've won 2 if he didn't go down game one of the finals. Previously with donyell, Wesley, big OLD Z, sideshow Bob, Larry Hughes, Eric snow, brown, boobie, amon ones, pavlavic and pollard he was shockingly unable to beat the spurs big 3 HOF Like now facing thewarriors with their FOUR HOF and he has jr Smith and tkevin! WTF?!?!? I see your point, but my criticism is not pointed at LeBron. When this happened to MJ, it was MJ's fault. I don't think this is LBJ's fault as much as it is the offensive strategy that distrusts contributing players and creates the mentality that they are there to watch. Fans naturally have the mentality that LBJ must save the day and the other players seem to follow suit. Any of those supporting cast could have been HoF material in the Spurs' system. Of course being "Driven" helps but being in a system that isn't predicated on the movements of 1 player allows them to use their talents. Hill's best years were as a Spur. Amon Ones is a special case, so I can't disagree that he sux in any system. |
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 4, 2018 15:39:51 GMT -5
I see your point, but my criticism is not pointed at LeBron. When this happened to MJ, it was MJ's fault. I don't think this is LBJ's fault as much as it is the offensive strategy that distrusts contributing players and creates the mentality that they are there to watch. Fans naturally have the mentality that LBJ must save the day and the other players seem to follow suit. Any of those supporting cast could have been HoF material in the Spurs' system. Of course being "Driven" helps but being in a system that isn't predicated on the movements of 1 player allows them to use their talents. Hill's best years were as a Spur. Amon Ones is a special case, so I can't disagree that he sux in any system. Was talking about this with a friend today and he was under the impression that the role players on this current Cavs team look afraid to mess up and that's why they're playing so bad. It's like Kobe towards the end. |
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 4, 2018 16:01:12 GMT -5
Any of those supporting cast could have been HoF material in the Spurs' system. Of course being "Driven" helps but being in a system that isn't predicated on the movements of 1 player allows them to use their talents. Hill's best years were as a Spur. Amon Ones is a special case, so I can't disagree that he sux in any system. Was talking about this with a friend today and he was under the impression that the role players on this current Cavs team look afraid to mess up and that's why they're playing so bad. It's like Kobe towards the end. They all know it's the last chance for Cleveland. I still think LeBron leaves. Could be L.A., could be Philly. In L.A. they knew they weren't winning anything. History has shown when LeBron loses, it's the team's fault so they will all get the blame. |
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 4, 2018 16:01:55 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 4, 2018 16:50:49 GMT -5
#ShotsFired  |
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 4, 2018 18:05:07 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 5, 2018 9:29:23 GMT -5
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