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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 5, 2018 10:48:20 GMT -5
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 5, 2018 13:14:54 GMT -5
#ShotsFired   |
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 5, 2018 15:12:20 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 5, 2018 15:18:52 GMT -5
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Post by andrew420 on Jun 5, 2018 17:13:08 GMT -5
Alex Trebeck: “Playing Rodney Hood in Finals” Contestant: “what are signs your team is totally fu.cked Alex?!” |
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Post by admiralfish on Jun 5, 2018 23:12:29 GMT -5
I see your point, but my criticism is not pointed at LeBron. When this happened to MJ, it was MJ's fault. I don't think this is LBJ's fault as much as it is the offensive strategy that distrusts contributing players and creates the mentality that they are there to watch. Fans naturally have the mentality that LBJ must save the day and the other players seem to follow suit. Any of those supporting cast could have been HoF material in the Spurs' system. Of course being "Driven" helps but being in a system that isn't predicated on the movements of 1 player allows them to use their talents. Hill's best years were as a Spur. Amon Ones is a special case, so I can't disagree that he sux in any system. BIITCH, WTF YOU JUST SAY?!? Any of WHICH supporting players could've been HOF?!? Before I fully FLAME that stupid ish imma let you retract or recorrect. Tf is you talking about?? Other than Horry(GOAT) of course with his 7 with three teams. Second most remarkable to LeBron current finals streak. |
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Post by admiralfish on Jun 5, 2018 23:34:54 GMT -5
The 'allas mavericks featured:
Dirk (he's become a first name. Period)
Kidd (first ballot HOF, an all time leader in assists 3's and steals as an all NBA defender)
Shawn Marion (All star, elite 2 way player, multi positional all NBA defender. The faking MATRIX)
Jet Terry (perennial 6th Man of the Year 2 and clutch shot taker, maker and creator)
Tyson Chandler (all nba defensive player, elite screen setter, a true paint anchor)
Deshawn Stevenson (professions menace machine and high level defender)
Plus guys like caron butler, barea, brewer and freaking PEJA
Can history be honest the heat hadn't reached their peak and Dallas was a faking perfectly built beast for Dirk at the end of his prime? This was the season he unveiled the one foot fall away he was on another level only special players can achieve like...
DIRK NOWITZKI
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 6, 2018 12:33:15 GMT -5
Any of those supporting cast could have been HoF material in the Spurs' system. Of course being "Driven" helps but being in a system that isn't predicated on the movements of 1 player allows them to use their talents. Hill's best years were as a Spur. Amon Ones is a special case, so I can't disagree that he sux in any system. BIITCH, WTF YOU JUST SAY?!? Any of WHICH supporting players could've been HOF?!? Before I fully FLAME that stupid ish imma let you retract or recorrect. Tf is you talking about?? Other than Horry(GOAT) of course with his 7 with three teams. Second most remarkable to LeBron current finals streak. Lol I'm just saying saying those guys were/are in the league for a reason. You never know what playing for a good organization and HoF coach can do. LeBron has NEVER been coached. Every coach he's had has used the "Give LeBron the ball and get outta the way" style of coaching. It almost worked till he ran into the Spurs' buzz saw. That does nothing for advancing a player's skill set or their fragile egos. The Dallas series, you're right. The Heat weren't ready and they had gutted the team to build the Big 3. Dallas had a better team. |
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jun 6, 2018 13:35:46 GMT -5
Spoelstra is a very good coach
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Post by Pain662 on Jun 6, 2018 17:39:29 GMT -5
Spoelstra is a very good coach And Mike Brown taught him some defense. But neither is Pop, and the Cavs are from a quality front office. |
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 7, 2018 14:21:15 GMT -5
So where's LeBron going after this season?
I still thinks he stays in Cleveland
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 7, 2018 15:54:43 GMT -5
The 'allas mavericks featured: Dirk (he's become a first name. Period) 37 YRS OLD Kidd (first ballot HOF, an all time leader in assists 3's and steals as an all NBA defender) 32 YRS OLD Shawn Marion (All star, elite 2 way player, multi positional all NBA defender. The faking MATRIX) 33 YRS OLD Jet Terry (perennial 6th Man of the Year 2 and clutch shot taker, maker and creator) Tyson Chandler (all nba defensive player, elite screen setter, a true paint anchor) LOL Deshawn Stevenson (professions menace machine and high level defender) Plus guys like caron butler, barea, brewer and freaking PEJA Can history be honest the heat hadn't reached their peak and Dallas was a faking perfectly built beast for Dirk at the end of his prime? This was the season he unveiled the one foot fall away he was on another level only special players can achieve like... DIRK NOWITZKI none of those guys made the AS team / Kevin Love was an AS this year |
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 7, 2018 22:22:33 GMT -5
Lol
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 8, 2018 15:50:03 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 8, 2018 19:53:46 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 8, 2018 22:42:46 GMT -5
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 9, 2018 0:23:23 GMT -5
That Kyrie trade truly left the Cavs with crumbs. They got IT, Crowder, and a pick back for Kyrie. They turned IT, Crowder, D-Rose, and (sort of) D-Wade into Rodney Hood, Clarkson, Nance, and George Hill
The media got way over hyped about the "new" squad for no apparent reason.
That #8 pick better be incredibly impactful. If it's not, and LBJ leaves, they could be beyond awful.
Random thought: how much would the league be different had that Anthony Bennett pick actually turned out to be an all-star player. They could've had Giannis(15) or Oladipo(2).
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Post by bbills on Jun 9, 2018 20:16:07 GMT -5
This has crept into my mind as well. Do the spurs have the cash or would they need a sign and trade? |
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Post by bbills on Jun 9, 2018 20:18:43 GMT -5
Lebron putting a soft cast and “leaking” to windjorst that he broken it game one is the softest dog ish excuse ever. Part of the reason people dislike him so much dude can’t accept blame.
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 9, 2018 20:32:01 GMT -5
This has crept into my mind as well. Do the spurs have the cash or would they need a sign and trade? They definitely won't have the room to sign him straight up. Mostly due to Pau's $18M(or something ridiculous like that). The main tradeable asset besides Kawhi would be Dejounte Murray and he's the last person I would the Spurs to trade. |
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 9, 2018 20:32:34 GMT -5
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Post by bbills on Jun 9, 2018 20:41:28 GMT -5
This has crept into my mind as well. Do the spurs have the cash or would they need a sign and trade? They definitely won't have the room to sign him straight up. Mostly due to Pau's $18M(or something ridiculous like that). The main tradeable asset besides Kawhi would be Dejounte Murray and he's the last person I would the Spurs to trade. If Lebron want to sign their they just need to make the money work. I could see it being paus contract then they buy him out. Or maybe Aldridge. Who know really. But I know Lebron like pop so o could see him wanting to team up with kawhi in San Antonio |
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Post by quikdrummer on Jun 9, 2018 20:50:35 GMT -5
Lebron putting a soft cast and “leaking” to windjorst that he broken it game one is the softest dog ish excuse ever. Part of the reason people dislike him so much dude can’t accept blame. Lol |
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 9, 2018 22:09:29 GMT -5
Could LeBron, AD, and Jrue Holiday beat the Warriors?
You're saying no, but these are probably the #1 and #3 players in the league on the same team.
And if I'm the Cavs, a sign and trade for Cousins doesn't leave my empty-handed either. Yeah they get Cousins back who's still la head case, but it's better than getting nothing back. The Cavs will/could lose LeBron and will STILL be over the cap with only 9 players under contract for next year
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Post by bbills on Jun 9, 2018 22:16:22 GMT -5
Could LeBron, AD, and Jrue Holiday beat the Warriors? You're saying no, but these are probably the #1 and #3 players in the league on the same team. And if I'm the Cavs, a sign and trade for Cousins doesn't leave my empty-handed either. Yeah they get Cousins back who's still la head case, but it's better than getting nothing back. The Cavs will/could lose LeBron and will STILL be over the cap with only 9 players under contract for next year Cousins is a free agent too isn’t he? No way he would agree to resign only to be traded to Cleveland. |
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Post by tadster00 on Jun 9, 2018 22:19:04 GMT -5
Could LeBron, AD, and Jrue Holiday beat the Warriors? You're saying no, but these are probably the #1 and #3 players in the league on the same team. And if I'm the Cavs, a sign and trade for Cousins doesn't leave my empty-handed either. Yeah they get Cousins back who's still la head case, but it's better than getting nothing back. The Cavs will/could lose LeBron and will STILL be over the cap with only 9 players under contract for next year Cousins is a free agent too isn’t he? No way he would agree to resign only to be traded to Cleveland. Didn't look, but double-checked and you're right. How do you think LeBron looks in NOLA though? |
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Post by bbills on Jun 9, 2018 22:21:37 GMT -5
Cousins is a free agent too isn’t he? No way he would agree to resign only to be traded to Cleveland. Didn't look, but double-checked and you're right. How do you think LeBron looks in NOLA though? From a talent standpoint I see and agree with your thinking but I can’t see Lebron going there. He gonna go where he is going to go where he can market himself best |
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Post by bbills on Jun 11, 2018 8:56:26 GMT -5
We all figure Lebron a most likely landing spot will be Philly LA or stay in Cleveland. Who are your dark horse teams to get Lebron?
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Post by mrShowtime on Jun 11, 2018 11:25:17 GMT -5
We all figure Lebron a most likely landing spot will be Philly LA or stay in Cleveland. Who are your dark horse teams to get Lebron? Philly just sounds like a terrible idea. Simmons is trending towards LeBron and bringing in the real thing will only stunt his growth. The Sixers should just be patient with what they have. Barring injury, they could be a ECF contender very soon. LeBron to the West is another terrible idea for him. His (or any superstar FA's) best chance at a title comes through the East. The East outside of Boston and Philly is already garbage. His best bet is to stay with CLE and try to arrange for talent to come join him. I think he should be talking to mgmt about trading #8 for Anthony Davis. www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9a4rn46 Boogie could be a consolation. I think he'd sign in Cleveland because he knows it means another trip to the Finals. The only problem there is that it would force Love to the Blatt-4 and that's not a good use for him. People want to dog on Love, but he played his ass off in the Finals. I'd only trade him if you're getting top-talent back. If they could trade him for a PG and pick up Boogie, that would make more sense. Chris Paul to the Cavs? Think he'd sign? Would adding him be enough? I can't help but feel that LeBron would prefer to play off the ball at times and he can only do that with an All-Star-caliber PG on the floor. |
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Post by bbills on Jun 11, 2018 12:48:08 GMT -5
We all figure Lebron a most likely landing spot will be Philly LA or stay in Cleveland. Who are your dark horse teams to get Lebron? Philly just sounds like a terrible idea. Simmons is trending towards LeBron and bringing in the real thing will only stunt his growth. The Sixers should just be patient with what they have. Barring injury, they could be a ECF contender very soon. LeBron to the West is another terrible idea for him. His (or any superstar FA's) best chance at a title comes through the East. The East outside of Boston and Philly is already garbage. His best bet is to stay with CLE and try to arrange for talent to come join him. I think he should be talking to mgmt about trading #8 for Anthony Davis. www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9a4rn46 Boogie could be a consolation. I think he'd sign in Cleveland because he knows it means another trip to the Finals. The only problem there is that it would force Love to the Blatt-4 and that's not a good use for him. People want to dog on Love, but he played his ass off in the Finals. I'd only trade him if you're getting top-talent back. If they could trade him for a PG and pick up Boogie, that would make more sense. Chris Paul to the Cavs? Think he'd sign? Would adding him be enough? I can't help but feel that LeBron would prefer to play off the ball at times and he can only do that with an All-Star-caliber PG on the floor. No way Danny allows Davis to go to Cleveland. |
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