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Post by Pain662 on Jan 10, 2019 2:52:42 GMT -5
Sooooo, how slow is this McCaw guy? WTF?? SMH Why not do one year with the warriors with a player option and get all your money? As it turned out they could've used him and made him look good. Just dumb man... I said the same thing. He went from getting run on a perennial contender to league minimum on a crowded Raptors squad. IF they make it past Boston and Philly, they'll lose to his old team.
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Post by andrew420 on Jan 10, 2019 8:33:01 GMT -5
@phil what u think about da bears copping Gregg Williams and hotsaucing the way to the chip next year?!? Dude was comedy gold on hard knocks this past year. Sucks lost Vic
*(buzzlightyear voice) bounties...bounties everywhere*
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Post by quikdrummer on Jan 10, 2019 10:08:02 GMT -5
@phil what u think about da bears copping Gregg Williams and hotsaucing the way to the chip next year?!? Dude was comedy gold on hard knocks this past year. Sucks lost Vic *(buzzlightyear voice) bounties...bounties everywhere* Drew what do you think about setting your lineups and responding to trade offers in the basketball league
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Post by admiralfish on Jan 10, 2019 11:32:27 GMT -5
Well guys, I saw a picture of the splash brothers and it struck me that this is for sure the end of the Golden State dynasty as currently constructed. It started with them, and it will end with them.
Durant is leaving and after next season, so will draymond. Cousins, no matter how well he plays, will not be welcomed back. Iggy is finished, stretch him and let him retire.
Now, all this gets them to around $67 million in committed salary next season. AFTER you go free agent shopping, you'll then resign Klay to the full max. So they'll have approximately $40 million to spend. Here's what I would do if imma was them:
Aminu Taj Gibson MKG Beverly Tobias Harris Jaymichael Green
Potential lineups:
D. Green, J. Green Tobias Harris, Aminu Gibson, Looney Steph, Beverly Klay, MKG
It might look crazy to you but as FA has shown us the last 2 summers the price points are dropping on lower tier players. There will be no more crazy contracts or overpaying guys which means they'll be able to pay Harris, say, $25 million while spending like $5 million per player for the other dudes (gibson, Aminu, MKG)
Then draymond leaves and they have money to spend again.
I think this will be the direction they go in, you heard it here first....
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jan 10, 2019 11:57:25 GMT -5
@phil what u think about da bears copping Gregg Williams and hotsaucing the way to the chip next year?!? Dude was comedy gold on hard knocks this past year. Sucks lost Vic *(buzzlightyear voice) bounties...bounties everywhere* I'd prefer someone else. I think it would be best to get someone who has the same philosophy as Fangio. Fangio likes to generate pressure with him front 4 and very rarely blitzes. Gregg Williams loves dialing up the blitzes. I wonder if Donatell could do it
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Post by andrew420 on Jan 10, 2019 14:43:51 GMT -5
@phil what u think about da bears copping Gregg Williams and hotsaucing the way to the chip next year?!? Dude was comedy gold on hard knocks this past year. Sucks lost Vic *(buzzlightyear voice) bounties...bounties everywhere* I'd prefer someone else. I think it would be best to get someone who has the same philosophy as Fangio. Fangio likes to generate pressure with him front 4 and very rarely blitzes. Gregg Williams loves dialing up the blitzes. I wonder if Donatell could do it Pressure with 4 sounds perfect for Lovie!!! (Insert rex is our starting qb meme here)
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Post by andrew420 on Jan 10, 2019 14:44:22 GMT -5
@phil what u think about da bears copping Gregg Williams and hotsaucing the way to the chip next year?!? Dude was comedy gold on hard knocks this past year. Sucks lost Vic *(buzzlightyear voice) bounties...bounties everywhere* Drew what do you think about setting your lineups and responding to trade offers in the basketball league Lineups are set!
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Post by andrew420 on Jan 10, 2019 14:45:28 GMT -5
BBB
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Post by quikdrummer on Jan 10, 2019 14:59:30 GMT -5
Ballin’! Nice doing bidness
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Post by admiralfish on Jan 10, 2019 15:23:11 GMT -5
The moment we all saw this man, and his NBA career, die...
RIP
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Post by mrShowtime on Jan 10, 2019 16:17:14 GMT -5
HA!
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jan 10, 2019 21:50:11 GMT -5
I'd prefer someone else. I think it would be best to get someone who has the same philosophy as Fangio. Fangio likes to generate pressure with him front 4 and very rarely blitzes. Gregg Williams loves dialing up the blitzes. I wonder if Donatell could do it Pressure with 4 sounds perfect for Lovie!!! (Insert rex is our starting qb meme here) Lovie had that outdated Tampa 2 defense thiugh
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Post by admiralfish on Jan 11, 2019 8:06:46 GMT -5
Hearing the name Greg Williams makes my skin crawl. You're out of your mind if you want that douchebag coaching your team...
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Post by admiralfish on Jan 11, 2019 15:29:06 GMT -5
2019-20 Phoenix Suns
Ayton, Oubre Warren, Jackson Vucevic, Holmes Booker, (INSERT LOTTERY PICK) Rubio, Rose
You get here by offering Rose, Rubio and Vucevic multi year deals at an average of $15 million a year. All 3 will take it. Then resign or match on Oubre. Ayton, booker and jackson are all under contract multiple years and you still have Anderson expiring at $21 after next season.
You 'uns fans in or nah?
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Post by tadster00 on Jan 11, 2019 18:00:23 GMT -5
2019-20 Phoenix Suns Ayton, Oubre Warren, Jackson Vucevic, Holmes Booker, (INSERT LOTTERY PICK) Rubio, Rose You get here by offering Rose, Rubio and Vucevic multi year deals at an average of $15 million a year. All 3 will take it. Then resign or match on Oubre. Ayton, booker and jackson are all under contract multiple years and you still have Anderson expiring at $21 after next season. You 'uns fans in or nah? Vucevic is about to get PAID this off-season, what're you smoking? That dude's playing for a huge contract
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Post by mrShowtime on Jan 11, 2019 19:00:19 GMT -5
2019-20 Phoenix Suns Ayton, Oubre Warren, Jackson Vucevic, Holmes Booker, (INSERT LOTTERY PICK) Rubio, Rose You get here by offering Rose, Rubio and Vucevic multi year deals at an average of $15 million a year. All 3 will take it. Then resign or match on Oubre. Ayton, booker and jackson are all under contract multiple years and you still have Anderson expiring at $21 after next season. You 'uns fans in or nah? Vucevic is about to get PAID this off-season, what're you smoking? That dude's playing for a huge contract Has Vucevic been playing good this season? I haven't paid much attention.
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Post by quikdrummer on Jan 11, 2019 20:15:14 GMT -5
2019-20 Phoenix Suns Ayton, Oubre Warren, Jackson Vucevic, Holmes Booker, (INSERT LOTTERY PICK) Rubio, Rose You get here by offering Rose, Rubio and Vucevic multi year deals at an average of $15 million a year. All 3 will take it. Then resign or match on Oubre. Ayton, booker and jackson are all under contract multiple years and you still have Anderson expiring at $21 after next season. You 'uns fans in or nah? Vucevic is about to get PAID this off-season, what're you smoking? That dude's playing for a huge contract Where is this magical $45million in cap space coming from
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Post by admiralfish on Jan 11, 2019 21:05:58 GMT -5
2019-20 Phoenix Suns Ayton, Oubre Warren, Jackson Vucevic, Holmes Booker, (INSERT LOTTERY PICK) Rubio, Rose You get here by offering Rose, Rubio and Vucevic multi year deals at an average of $15 million a year. All 3 will take it. Then resign or match on Oubre. Ayton, booker and jackson are all under contract multiple years and you still have Anderson expiring at $21 after next season. You 'uns fans in or nah? Vucevic is about to get PAID this off-season, what're you smoking? That dude's playing for a huge contract Who's giving him more than that per season long term? I'll wait for you to research it...
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Post by admiralfish on Jan 11, 2019 21:08:33 GMT -5
Vucevic is about to get PAID this off-season, what're you smoking? That dude's playing for a huge contract Where is this magical $45million in cap space coming from hoopshype.com/salaries/phoenix_suns/They only have $76 million in salary for next season. DING!!!
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jan 12, 2019 2:33:26 GMT -5
The cap is at $102 million this season, that's $26 million in cap space not $45m.
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jan 12, 2019 3:05:41 GMT -5
I'd prefer someone else. I think it would be best to get someone who has the same philosophy as Fangio. Fangio likes to generate pressure with him front 4 and very rarely blitzes. Gregg Williams loves dialing up the blitzes. I wonder if Donatell could do it Pressure with 4 sounds perfect for Lovie!!! (Insert rex is our starting qb meme here) Chuck Pagano. Can't complain, he did well with the Ravens and failed as a head coach, so I doubt we'll be looking to replace him next season if he does extremely well.
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Post by admiralfish on Jan 12, 2019 20:23:46 GMT -5
The cap is at $102 million this season, that's $26 million in cap space not $45m. The NBA has informed teams that the league's salary cap will be set at $109 million for the 2019-20 season and at $118 million for the 2020-21 season, according to The Athletic's Shams Charania. The luxury tax for 2019-20 will be set at $132 million, and at $143 million in 2020-21 There's plenty of room to maneuver. Y'all mad I be making these moves make sense lol
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jan 13, 2019 0:49:17 GMT -5
The cap is at $102 million this season, that's $26 million in cap space not $45m. The NBA has informed teams that the league's salary cap will be set at $109 million for the 2019-20 season and at $118 million for the 2020-21 season, according to The Athletic's Shams Charania. The luxury tax for 2019-20 will be set at $132 million, and at $143 million in 2020-21 There's plenty of room to maneuver. Y'all mad I be making these moves make sense lol If the cap is at $109 million, then it's $33 million of cap space not 45. Then you need to take off about $2m for the minimum charges to get Phoenix to the minimum roster size and we're at $31 million.
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Post by admiralfish on Jan 13, 2019 10:27:22 GMT -5
The NBA has informed teams that the league's salary cap will be set at $109 million for the 2019-20 season and at $118 million for the 2020-21 season, according to The Athletic's Shams Charania. The luxury tax for 2019-20 will be set at $132 million, and at $143 million in 2020-21 There's plenty of room to maneuver. Y'all mad I be making these moves make sense lol If the cap is at $109 million, then it's $33 million of cap space not 45. Then you need to take off about $2m for the minimum charges to get Phoenix to the minimum roster size and we're at $31 million. Sooooo, whatever. Don't be trying to disprove my brilliance in roster building!!! But seriously with the tax line being $143 you can only spend up to that by resigning you OWN bird rights players? Like they would need to renounce a couple guys to get extra money or sign free agents then exceed it by resigning a restricted player like oubre? Any way you slice it, it's a nice look to me and certainly something they can do. You're salty I have Rose going there cause you want him back on the baby bulls don't you?? 😆
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jan 13, 2019 12:05:47 GMT -5
Also for that "brilliant roster planning", the cap will block you from signing 1 of your 3 guys, so pretty big deal. With that said, whoever the Suns draft should be starting and I would use that cap space to sign a bunch of veterans everywhere. Build around Ayton + Booker + rookie and use the vets to get rid of that loser culture that smells top to bottom in that organization.
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jan 13, 2019 12:10:17 GMT -5
If the cap is at $109 million, then it's $33 million of cap space not 45. Then you need to take off about $2m for the minimum charges to get Phoenix to the minimum roster size and we're at $31 million. Sooooo, whatever. Don't be trying to disprove my brilliance in roster building!!! But seriously with the tax line being $143 you can only spend up to that by resigning you OWN bird rights players? Like they would need to renounce a couple guys to get extra money or sign free agents then exceed it by resigning a restricted player like oubre? Any way you slice it, it's a nice look to me and certainly something they can do. You're salty I have Rose going there cause you want him back on the baby bulls don't you?? 😆 Can't renounce a guy and lose his bird rights then re-sign him and enter the luxury tax. What they can do is keep his bird rights and opt for cap space, then once they sign all the free agents and use up all available cap space, they can re-sign their guy to a deal. That player's cap hit is whatever his cap hold is though, so that will cut into that cap space some more. I think Oubre's cap hold is at $9 million, so deduct that from the $31 million too.
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Post by bbills on Jan 13, 2019 12:12:23 GMT -5
Pressure with 4 sounds perfect for Lovie!!! (Insert rex is our starting qb meme here) Chuck Pagano. Can't complain, he did well with the Ravens and failed as a head coach, so I doubt we'll be looking to replace him next season if he does extremely well. I wouldn’t say he “failed” as a head coach. He did well with Indy it was just luck kept getting hurt on him really hampered what he could accomplish. Great hire by the bears.
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Post by bbills on Jan 13, 2019 12:23:24 GMT -5
If the cap is at $109 million, then it's $33 million of cap space not 45. Then you need to take off about $2m for the minimum charges to get Phoenix to the minimum roster size and we're at $31 million. Sooooo, whatever. Don't be trying to disprove my brilliance in roster building!!! But seriously with the tax line being $143 you can only spend up to that by resigning you OWN bird rights players? Like they would need to renounce a couple guys to get extra money or sign free agents then exceed it by resigning a restricted player like oubre? Any way you slice it, it's a nice look to me and certainly something they can do. You're salty I have Rose going there cause you want him back on the baby bulls don't you?? 😆 Not gonna argue numbers with you cuz I could case less about that but answer me this why would both Rubio and rose both sign with the suns? Both probable seem themselves as starters so I can’t see them willing to sign to split minutes with someone else. Also both are entering the final third of their careers spent mostly on losing teams why would they sign with rebuilding franchise like the suns that isn’t at least showing signs they are ready to make that next step and be a playoff team yet. By the time the suns will be ready to make that jump they will probably be non factors bench players. As for vuvicek (sp?) Orlando has his bird right unless he gets sign and traded to the suns he would probably just resign with Orlando for the extra money. And if he was willing to sign for less why would he pick the suns when their are a lot more attractive options.
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jan 13, 2019 13:17:18 GMT -5
Sooooo, whatever. Don't be trying to disprove my brilliance in roster building!!! But seriously with the tax line being $143 you can only spend up to that by resigning you OWN bird rights players? Like they would need to renounce a couple guys to get extra money or sign free agents then exceed it by resigning a restricted player like oubre? Any way you slice it, it's a nice look to me and certainly something they can do. You're salty I have Rose going there cause you want him back on the baby bulls don't you?? 😆 Not gonna argue numbers with you cuz I could case less about that but answer me this why would both Rubio and rose both sign with the suns? Both probable seem themselves as starters so I can’t see them willing to sign to split minutes with someone else. Also both are entering the final third of their careers spent mostly on losing teams why would they sign with rebuilding franchise like the suns that isn’t at least showing signs they are ready to make that next step and be a playoff team yet. By the time the suns will be ready to make that jump they will probably be non factors bench players. As for vuvicek (sp?) Orlando has his bird right unless he gets sign and traded to the suns he would probably just resign with Orlando for the extra money. And if he was willing to sign for less why would he pick the suns when their are a lot more attractive options. I think Rose goes to either to highest bidder or takes a slight paycut to stay somewhat close to Chicago. Realistically I think he will entertain $11m a year versus $15m.
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Jan 13, 2019 13:18:06 GMT -5
Chuck Pagano. Can't complain, he did well with the Ravens and failed as a head coach, so I doubt we'll be looking to replace him next season if he does extremely well. I wouldn’t say he “failed” as a head coach. He did well with Indy it was just luck kept getting hurt on him really hampered what he could accomplish. Great hire by the bears. Didn't Arians do a lot better with the same roster?
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