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Post by mrShowtime on Feb 19, 2019 9:30:51 GMT -5
Eh IDK maybe just up the ante ($250k) to give other guys an incentive to get in it. I definitely didn't pay it any attention in the background last night... First time I've watched the whole All Star game in a minute. I was rooting for Giannis and the lob from Steph was fire! This was the first year in a while that I didn't watch the AS game. Just wasn't feeling it this season. I did turn it on and watched about 10 minutes. I saw the Curry bounce-oop to Giannis. I turned it off after they finally showed the replay, figuring that I had likely seen the highlight of the night. Sounds like I was right. |
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Post by mrShowtime on Feb 19, 2019 13:18:54 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Feb 19, 2019 13:32:58 GMT -5
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Post by mrShowtime on Feb 19, 2019 13:40:29 GMT -5
This is pretty epic. Kudos to the Devils
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Post by Pain662 on Feb 19, 2019 16:37:44 GMT -5
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Post by Pain662 on Feb 19, 2019 16:40:27 GMT -5
Miami is the ish! As long as you don't hafta stay in a hotel. But sitting at a cafe on Ocean Drive, it's like a parade every day. |
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Post by mrShowtime on Feb 19, 2019 16:41:08 GMT -5
NBA PLAYOFFS Current system vs Straight seeding Who makes the final 4?  |
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Post by tadster00 on Feb 19, 2019 18:23:23 GMT -5
If this is what spring training looks like then I don't ever want to go.
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Post by tadster00 on Feb 19, 2019 18:24:55 GMT -5
90's born kid here, at which point in the 90's, did it ultimately become a consensus that MJ was/is the GOAT?
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Post by tadster00 on Feb 19, 2019 18:28:21 GMT -5
NBA PLAYOFFS Current system vs Straight seeding Who makes the final 4? Bucks, Spurs (sorry, Show, but I think SAS gets better/consistent in the 2nd half), Celtics, Warriors Ultimately this changes everything Warriors in 5 |
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Post by Pain662 on Feb 19, 2019 18:51:14 GMT -5
90's born kid here, at which point in the 90's, did it ultimately become a consensus that MJ was/is the GOAT? Dunno. He did amazing things on the court that just made jaws drop. Maybe it was guiding Chicago to six titles while taking a year off between 2 three-peats. Reinsdorf killed that Dynasty. They realistically could have gotten more. He was clutch. He always wanted to take the shot but, he truly became great when he trusted his teammates. See Kerr, Paxson. The teams he led were good but he elevated them. Kobe is the closest you could prolly relate to. The cutthroat that wanted to dominate you every quarter of every game. I still remember Lebron saying he wants to be the first basketball billionaire. That's fine and good that he had ambition. I think M.J. and Kobe would have said they want to win all the championships. |
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Post by Pain662 on Feb 19, 2019 18:57:01 GMT -5
90's born kid here, at which point in the 90's, did it ultimately become a consensus that MJ was/is the GOAT? His face@ 1:15! "You know what's 'bout to happen, right?" |
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Post by Pain662 on Feb 19, 2019 19:26:03 GMT -5
90's born kid here, at which point in the 90's, did it ultimately become a consensus that MJ was/is the GOAT? Plus he's the reason EVERY #23 in the league the past 20 years wears #23. |
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Post by melloare on Feb 19, 2019 19:42:21 GMT -5
All star weekend in Charlotte was ho-humm..Not even in my top 5 of the ones I have attended.
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Post by admiralfish on Feb 19, 2019 21:23:31 GMT -5
It became clear MJ was the 🐐 in the first quarter of the finals against the blazers when he came out and hit 6 3's on the homie Cliff Robinson.
Then, LeBron...
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Post by philipandhisbuddies on Feb 19, 2019 22:20:49 GMT -5
All star weekend in Charlotte was ho-humm..Not even in my top 5 of the ones I have attended. how would you expect prices to be for All Star Saturday? Game on Sunday? I want to go to Saturday for sure and if there’s enough money in the budget I would do the game itself too. |
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Post by tadster00 on Feb 20, 2019 0:23:50 GMT -5
90's born kid here, at which point in the 90's, did it ultimately become a consensus that MJ was/is the GOAT? Plus he's the reason EVERY #23 in the league the past 20 years wears #23. Hear all you said, but what I'm asking is was there 1 defining moment? Like Tom Brady this SB, in mine and probably everyone else, solidified his GOAT status Was it after his second three-peat after sitting out a season and a half? Or was he already considered the GOAT? |
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Post by tadster00 on Feb 20, 2019 0:24:31 GMT -5
It became clear MJ was the 🐐 in the first quarter of the finals against the blazers when he came out and hit 6 3's on the homie Cliff Robinson. Then, LeBron... What year was that? Are you saying LeBron is the GOAT? |
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Post by Pain662 on Feb 20, 2019 9:17:35 GMT -5
Plus he's the reason EVERY #23 in the league the past 20 years wears #23. Hear all you said, but what I'm asking is was there 1 defining moment? Like Tom Brady this SB, in mine and probably everyone else, solidified his GOAT status Was it after his second three-peat after sitting out a season and a half? Or was he already considered the GOAT? I dunno, man. There were so many moments. The flu game. The push off in Utah. The shot over Ehlo. The chip after his father's death. The 72 win season. |
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Post by Pain662 on Feb 20, 2019 9:23:40 GMT -5
It became clear MJ was the 🐐 in the first quarter of the finals against the blazers when he came out and hit 6 3's on the homie Cliff Robinson. Then, LeBron... What year was that? Are you saying LeBron is the GOAT? 92 Michael Jordan dominated from the beginning, breaking the record for most points in a first half in the playoffs once held by Elgin Baylor (Michael had 35, Baylor had 33). This included six first-half threes (also a record). It was after the sixth three-pointer that Jordan turned towards the broadcast table and famously shrugged to indicate his surprise. Jordan's shrug became a highlight reel mainstay. |
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Post by Pain662 on Feb 20, 2019 9:33:34 GMT -5
Earl Manigault said "For every Michael Jordan, there is an Earl Manigault. All of us can't make it. Someone has to fall. I was that one". I wonder how the goat conversation would change had he made it.
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Post by mrShowtime on Feb 20, 2019 10:30:43 GMT -5
Plus he's the reason EVERY #23 in the league the past 20 years wears #23. Hear all you said, but what I'm asking is was there 1 defining moment? Like Tom Brady this SB, in mine and probably everyone else, solidified his GOAT status Was it after his second three-peat after sitting out a season and a half? Or was he already considered the GOAT? It's an interesting argument. I agree with just about everything the others have said. But if you had to pick one moment, it might've been the Finals against Portland. But that's not even fair because it may have been solidified after the 2nd three-peat. But really it's an amalgam of different feelings. Watching an MJ game just felt different. When you watched The Mailman, or the Dream, or Dominique play, you watched them dominate and it was fun, but it was different for MJ. There was something about it. Whenever he had the ball in his hands, you knew points were coming. When he was playing defense, you know something big was going to happen. There was that collective sigh of relief from opposing fans when he came out of the game and that anxiety when he came back in. Think about the feeling that you have when Steph's hot. You literally expect every ridiculous acrobatic 3-ball to go in. It was like that on every possession for MJ. Think about the best perimeter defenders that you've seen. When Ron Artest would matchup with Paul Pierce. You knew Paul had his work cut out for him. This was like MJ against any wing in the game. Guys like LeBron can change the momentum of a game. MJ SET the momentum of a game. There was just something special happening on nearly every possession, from preseason to playoffs. The guy never took a play off. He never let you see him sweat. Imagine LeBron's dominance with Steph's fearlessness with Nash's offensive genius with Artest/Ariza/TonyAllen/Kawhi's defensive smarts and tenacity with Rondo's leadership all mixed with Kobe's need to destroy his opponent. The youtube videos don't do his games justice. I highly recommend watching full games. There was a Jordan box set a few years back that had six of his biggest games in their entirety. But really, you could watch any non-blowout game. The closer the game, the better. Even better, watch a loss and see his body-language. See the way he comes down on his team for their mistakes, but also builds them up to keep fighting (this was the part Kobe never figured out -- and it took MJ about 6 years to learn). See how the crowd (home) gets behind him knowing that he'll save the day, or dreads (away) the impending heartbreak as he dashes their dreams and rips their hearts out of their chests with that 15-footer that was automatic. |
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Post by mrShowtime on Feb 20, 2019 10:37:57 GMT -5
The first one, he didn't need to see. The last one, he had to relish.  |
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Post by mrShowtime on Feb 20, 2019 11:05:19 GMT -5
Tickets to Duke-UNC tonight are more expensive than Superbowl tickets were this year.
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Post by mrShowtime on Feb 20, 2019 11:15:27 GMT -5
Speaking of 90s ballers, it's Chuck's bday today. Here's my fav ad of his.
He's funny and playful now, but not many people seem to remember how mean and nasty he was on the court. there's a reason he did the "I am not a role model" ads.
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Post by mrShowtime on Feb 20, 2019 11:18:17 GMT -5
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Post by Pain662 on Feb 20, 2019 11:19:06 GMT -5
Hear all you said, but what I'm asking is was there 1 defining moment? Like Tom Brady this SB, in mine and probably everyone else, solidified his GOAT status Was it after his second three-peat after sitting out a season and a half? Or was he already considered the GOAT? It's an interesting argument. I agree with just about everything the others have said. But if you had to pick one moment, it might've been the Finals against Portland. But that's not even fair because it may have been solidified after the 2nd three-peat. But really it's an amalgam of different feelings. Watching an MJ game just felt different. When you watched The Mailman, or the Dream, or Dominique play, you watched them dominate and it was fun, but it was different for MJ. There was something about it. Whenever he had the ball in his hands, you knew points were coming. When he was playing defense, you know something big was going to happen. There was that collective sigh of relief from opposing fans when he came out of the game and that anxiety when he came back in. Think about the feeling that you have when Steph's hot. You literally expect every ridiculous acrobatic 3-ball to go in. It was like that on every possession for MJ. Think about the best perimeter defenders that you've seen. When Ron Artest would matchup with Paul Pierce. You knew Paul had his work cut out for him. This was like MJ against any wing in the game. Guys like LeBron can change the momentum of a game. MJ SET the momentum of a game. There was just something special happening on nearly every possession, from preseason to playoffs. The guy never took a play off. He never let you see him sweat. Imagine LeBron's dominance with Steph's fearlessness with Nash's offensive genius with Artest/Ariza/TonyAllen/Kawhi's defensive smarts and tenacity with Rondo's leadership all mixed with Kobe's need to destroy his opponent. The youtube videos don't do his games justice. I highly recommend watching full games. There was a Jordan box set a few years back that had six of his biggest games in their entirety. But really, you could watch any non-blowout game. The closer the game, the better. Even better, watch a loss and see his body-language. See the way he comes down on his team for their mistakes, but also builds them up to keep fighting (this was the part Kobe never figured out -- and it took MJ about 6 years to learn). See how the crowd (home) gets behind him knowing that he'll save the day, or dreads (away) the impending heartbreak as he dashes their dreams and rips their hearts out of their chests with that 15-footer that was automatic. All of this. He was just special and never blamed the team for not being good enough. He dethroned the Bad Boy Pistons and created a dynasty in Chicago. The Bulls have not sniffed success since he was forced out. He kept some of the greatest players of our generation from tasting Finals glory. He was a little Dr. J. A little Isaiah Thomas. He was never the highest paid on the team except his last season in Chicago. |
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Post by quikdrummer on Feb 20, 2019 11:25:59 GMT -5
Hear all you said, but what I'm asking is was there 1 defining moment? Like Tom Brady this SB, in mine and probably everyone else, solidified his GOAT status Was it after his second three-peat after sitting out a season and a half? Or was he already considered the GOAT? It's an interesting argument. I agree with just about everything the others have said. But if you had to pick one moment, it might've been the Finals against Portland. But that's not even fair because it may have been solidified after the 2nd three-peat. But really it's an amalgam of different feelings. Watching an MJ game just felt different. When you watched The Mailman, or the Dream, or Dominique play, you watched them dominate and it was fun, but it was different for MJ. There was something about it. Whenever he had the ball in his hands, you knew points were coming. When he was playing defense, you know something big was going to happen. There was that collective sigh of relief from opposing fans when he came out of the game and that anxiety when he came back in. Think about the feeling that you have when Steph's hot. You literally expect every ridiculous acrobatic 3-ball to go in. It was like that on every possession for MJ. Think about the best perimeter defenders that you've seen. When Ron Artest would matchup with Paul Pierce. You knew Paul had his work cut out for him. This was like MJ against any wing in the game. Guys like LeBron can change the momentum of a game. MJ SET the momentum of a game. There was just something special happening on nearly every possession, from preseason to playoffs. The guy never took a play off. He never let you see him sweat. Imagine LeBron's dominance with Steph's fearlessness with Nash's offensive genius with Artest/Ariza/TonyAllen/Kawhi's defensive smarts and tenacity with Rondo's leadership all mixed with Kobe's need to destroy his opponent. The youtube videos don't do his games justice. I highly recommend watching full games. There was a Jordan box set a few years back that had six of his biggest games in their entirety. But really, you could watch any non-blowout game. The closer the game, the better. Even better, watch a loss and see his body-language. See the way he comes down on his team for their mistakes, but also builds them up to keep fighting (this was the part Kobe never figured out -- and it took MJ about 6 years to learn). See how the crowd (home) gets behind him knowing that he'll save the day, or dreads (away) the impending heartbreak as he dashes their dreams and rips their hearts out of their chests with that 15-footer that was automatic. *fapping sound intensifies* |
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Post by mrShowtime on Feb 20, 2019 11:37:51 GMT -5
It's an interesting argument. I agree with just about everything the others have said. But if you had to pick one moment, it might've been the Finals against Portland. But that's not even fair because it may have been solidified after the 2nd three-peat. But really it's an amalgam of different feelings. Watching an MJ game just felt different. When you watched The Mailman, or the Dream, or Dominique play, you watched them dominate and it was fun, but it was different for MJ. There was something about it. Whenever he had the ball in his hands, you knew points were coming. When he was playing defense, you know something big was going to happen. There was that collective sigh of relief from opposing fans when he came out of the game and that anxiety when he came back in. Think about the feeling that you have when Steph's hot. You literally expect every ridiculous acrobatic 3-ball to go in. It was like that on every possession for MJ. Think about the best perimeter defenders that you've seen. When Ron Artest would matchup with Paul Pierce. You knew Paul had his work cut out for him. This was like MJ against any wing in the game. Guys like LeBron can change the momentum of a game. MJ SET the momentum of a game. There was just something special happening on nearly every possession, from preseason to playoffs. The guy never took a play off. He never let you see him sweat. Imagine LeBron's dominance with Steph's fearlessness with Nash's offensive genius with Artest/Ariza/TonyAllen/Kawhi's defensive smarts and tenacity with Rondo's leadership all mixed with Kobe's need to destroy his opponent. The youtube videos don't do his games justice. I highly recommend watching full games. There was a Jordan box set a few years back that had six of his biggest games in their entirety. But really, you could watch any non-blowout game. The closer the game, the better. Even better, watch a loss and see his body-language. See the way he comes down on his team for their mistakes, but also builds them up to keep fighting (this was the part Kobe never figured out -- and it took MJ about 6 years to learn). See how the crowd (home) gets behind him knowing that he'll save the day, or dreads (away) the impending heartbreak as he dashes their dreams and rips their hearts out of their chests with that 15-footer that was automatic. All of this. He was just special and never blamed the team for not being good enough. He dethroned the Bad Boy Pistons and created a dynasty in Chicago. The Bulls have not sniffed success since he was forced out. He kept some of the greatest players of our generation from tasting Finals glory. He was a little Dr. J. A little Isaiah Thomas. He was never the highest paid on the team except his last season in Chicago. Oh, he ish on his teammates plenty of times before Phil showed up and taught him how to lead. After that, he never called them out publicly, but busted heads repeatedly behind closed doors. This is why he will NEVER be a coach and is such a bad GM. |
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Post by Pain662 on Feb 20, 2019 13:18:42 GMT -5
All of this. He was just special and never blamed the team for not being good enough. He dethroned the Bad Boy Pistons and created a dynasty in Chicago. The Bulls have not sniffed success since he was forced out. He kept some of the greatest players of our generation from tasting Finals glory. He was a little Dr. J. A little Isaiah Thomas. He was never the highest paid on the team except his last season in Chicago. Oh, he ish on his teammates plenty of times before Phil showed up and taught him how to lead. After that, he never called them out publicly, but busted heads repeatedly behind closed doors. This is why he will NEVER be a coach and is such a bad GM. Ya young Jordan was a tool. He had to learn how to lead and win. Just cuz you can ball doesn't mean you can evaluate talent. He had always surrounded himself with people smarter than he in areas he was weak. |
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